How to align your Jeep Wrangler TJ

yeap. a bit less than 3/16" to be exact
Ok, that’s what I was finally getting to after my barrage of confused posts. That does contribute something to this thread. Somebody needs to go fix the OP.
 
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Ok, that’s what I was finally getting to after my barrage of confused posts. That does contribute something to this thread. Somebody needs to go fix the OP.
Glad to hear it. I was just overthinking everything, just to be sure, in order to set my toe in tomorrow before a long trip. (Just looking for an excuse to work on my TJ)
 
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Glad to hear it. I was just overthinking everything, just to be sure, in order to set my toe in tomorrow before a long trip. (Just looking for an excuse to work on my TJ)
1/16-1/8 would get close for most people, but you need more for bigger tire sizes to stay close to 0.30*! 👍🏼 Always fun to work on the Jeep for me!
 
1/16-1/8 would get close for most people, but you need more for bigger tire sizes to stay close to 0.30*! 👍🏼 Always fun to work on the Jeep for me!
Actually, I was now curious about how people came up with the 1/16" as a number.

I got the idea to search about the tire size where 1/16" is correct. Guess the tire size. 12"

Does it sound familiar? More or less the size of the rotor.
 
Ok everyone let's take something that is BUTT-simple whose answer has not changed and then try to confuse the fuck out of everyone.
I believe that there is nothing wrong to try work on your Jeep as accurate as possible.

1/16" could be a perfect number that works for anyone over the Years. I never doubted it.

I just gave an easy way to follow the factory specs. Why not? Anyone not bored adding 2 numbers in the calculator linked, can try it to be a bit more specific.
 
I believe that there is nothing wrong to try work on your Jeep as accurate as possible.

1/16" could be a perfect number that works for anyone over the Years. I never doubted it.

I just gave an easy way to follow the factory specs. Why not? Anyone not bored adding 2 numbers in the calculator linked, can try it to be a bit more specific.
I meant to ask earlier, but in the FSM is the total toe including toe in for the rear tires (which is set of course). In other words, is it the sum of all four tires. It is for some cars.
 
I meant to ask earlier, but in the FSM is the total toe including toe in for the rear tires (which is set of course). In other words, is it the sum of all four tires. It is for some cars.
0.15 degrees for each front wheel, for a total of 0.3 degrees for the front axle.

0.25 degrees total for the rear axle.

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The difference between 1/16” and 3/16” is not small.
 
I dunno how some of these long drawn-out discussions get started after many years of no one ever questioning the recommendations in the various Jeep alignment threads recommending the 1/16" to 3/16" setting. Suddenly someone wants to do extra math and then it gets rolling.

What I can say is the last time I was in a tire shop getting new tires and they pushed me to also get an alignment. I declined and said I did my own and briefly described how easy it is to do and that a rack is not needed for a toe-in adjustment. They in effect called bullshit on me and asked if they could just check it so I said sure. They did and had to admit it was dead-on perfect. Their last comment was they never would have believed it until they saw my results.

But if some of you want to do your own thing and not believe the instructions given in our forum's alignment thread, be my guest. :)
 
I dunno how some of these long drawn-out discussions get started after many years of no one ever questioning the recommendations in the various Jeep alignment threads recommending the 1/16" to 3/16" setting. Suddenly someone wants to do extra math and then it gets rolling.

What I can say is the last time I was in a tire shop getting new tires and they pushed me to also get an alignment. I declined and said I did my own and briefly described how easy it is to do and that a rack is not needed for a toe-in adjustment. They in effect called bullshit on me and asked if they could just check it so I said sure. They did and had to admit it was dead-on perfect. Their last comment was they never would have believed it until they saw my results.

But if some of you want to do your own thing and not believe the instructions given in our forum's alignment thread, be my guest. :)
This is exactly the purpose of a forum. To discuss and contribute. Otherwise this site would be a "how to guide" website.

I don't want to argue with no one, but I really cannot see what's wrong with someone offering a more accurate way to setup our TJs. I didn't say that this method doesn't work or anything. I trust the method. I just said that we could be more precise (following the factory service manual), with a really simple way/calculation (it didn't take me more than 10 seconds to do the calculation).

Also, I explained why I think the number 1/16" is wrong.

That's all :)
 
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This is exactly the purpose of a forum. To discuss and contribute. Otherwise this site would be a "how to guide" website.

I don't want to argue with no one, but I really cannot see what's wrong with someone offering a more accurate way to setup our TJs. I didn't say that this method doesn't work or anything. I trust the method. I just said that we could be more precise (following the factory service manual), with a really simple way/calculation (it didn't take me 10 seconds to do the calculation).

Also, I explained why I think the number 1/16" is wrong.

That's all :)
I guess the results on the alignment rack saying my toe-in was dead-nuts on was incorrect.
 
It surely was not 0.3 degrees.
Ok doc, you do whatever you want... but the instructions in this thread are commonly used across many Jeep groups, forums etc. and have been for many years, since before Jeeps were even invented. The 1/16" to 3/16" toe-in recommendations for Wranglers are well proven and accepted by all but one or two.
 
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Ok doc, you do whatever you want... but the instructions in this thread are commonly used across many Jeep groups, forums etc. and have been for many years, since before Jeeps were even invented. The 1/16" to 3/16" toe-in recommendations for Wranglers are well proven and accepted by all but one or two.
I know that. 1/16" is universal in almost every thread, video etc I have seen. I dont doubt it.

The only thing I doubt is that 1/16" gives you 0.3 degrees. Unless you have 12" wheels.
 
Ok doc, you do whatever you want... but the instructions in this thread are commonly used across many Jeep groups, forums etc. and have been for many years, since before Jeeps were even invented. The 1/16" to 3/16" toe-in recommendations for Wranglers are well proven and accepted by all but one or two.
Instead of reacting, you can simply answer me with a yes or no.

Did the alignment rack showed the results that you have 0.3 degrees?

Also, I understand why you are facepalming me, since I am a newbie here, asking questions. But, would you facepalm post #149 of @mrblaine in this thread?

I am literally saying the same thing.
 
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