Really glad I decided to wait until this weekend to start ripping things apart
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It's white mud !
2005 Rubicon; A Rubi Brother
- Thread starter Jamison C
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It's white mud !
It's been teasing me with that same stuff all week and was a nice 5* this morning.
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Arizona is so purrdy.
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Got the transmission back this week. Guy said everything went together nicely and gave me some good helpful hints on installing. He cleaned it up pretty good too which I appreciated.
Now for the fun. Since the transmission is back, I can use it to start wrapping up my harness, which I started on last night. Some pictures of the fun.
This loom was leftover from a project I did years ago, but I ran out and it was getting late. I bought some more of that and the cloth friction tape from ACE today so I can continue work. My tidy workmanship comes from years of reading over the Magnum V8 swap threads and how these guys build their harnesses. It's kind of a pain, but it's also satisfying watching it come together.
I had also mentioned I was going to try and use some junkyard connectors to turn this into a standalone harness that can be separated from the rest of the Jeep. I've decided against that idea, so everything will be tying into the main harness, even though it's only five wires. Things will be less messy that way, and less potential failure points. The only difference here is that the TC, locker, VSS, and fuel pump wiring won't be tied into this leg like they are from the factory.
Now for the fun. Since the transmission is back, I can use it to start wrapping up my harness, which I started on last night. Some pictures of the fun.
This loom was leftover from a project I did years ago, but I ran out and it was getting late. I bought some more of that and the cloth friction tape from ACE today so I can continue work. My tidy workmanship comes from years of reading over the Magnum V8 swap threads and how these guys build their harnesses. It's kind of a pain, but it's also satisfying watching it come together.
I had also mentioned I was going to try and use some junkyard connectors to turn this into a standalone harness that can be separated from the rest of the Jeep. I've decided against that idea, so everything will be tying into the main harness, even though it's only five wires. Things will be less messy that way, and less potential failure points. The only difference here is that the TC, locker, VSS, and fuel pump wiring won't be tied into this leg like they are from the factory.
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Thank you sir. Maybe you can help me with this. I'm trying to de-pin the C104 connector, which is essentially the same as the C102 and C103 connectors, just half the size. I know you have to work around the 102 and 103 connectors in the Magnum swaps. Any suggestions on how to get the pins out without destroying the connectors or pins?
This is the best help I can offer. I have gotten 2 disassembled and not broken and broke one. I used this video to help and I practiced on my old harness.
Being you have an 05, this may not apply, but I'm having trouble locating a transmission harness for my 04. I know the firewall harness plugs into the TCM, but I'm not sure what goes from the TCM to the transmission. I can't find anything in the parts manuals.
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So like mine, all of the transmission wiring is integrated into the engine harness. So even though your 04 has a separate TCM all of the wiring is in one harness. There’s a small leg that carries all of the wiring for the crank position sensor, transmission, transfer case switch, VSS, locker pumps, and the fuel pump. Being as you have a rubicon you would need one specifically for a rubicon if you felt a direct swap is in your best interest, unless you go the route I went and pull all of the wiring you need out of a donor harness.
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Today’s the day! Except nothing is going to stop my work this time
My goals for the day:
1). Drop exhaust
2). Drain all fluids
3). Remove driveshafts
4). Remove transfer case
5). Remove transmission
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Victory! Stopping here for the day due to frustration with the exhaust. One bolt is completely seized and my dads sawzall is nowhere to be found. So I’m happy with this progress considering I’ve never pulled a TC before. I also had to lift the whole frame to get this thing out 
I think pulling the transmission will be a good task for tomorrow.
I think pulling the transmission will be a good task for tomorrow.
Victory! Stopping here for the day due to frustration with the exhaust. One bolt is completely seized and my dads sawzall is nowhere to be found. So I’m happy with this progress considering I’ve never pulled a TC before. I also had to lift the whole frame to get this thing out
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I think pulling the transmission will be a good task for tomorrow.
Remember if you had to raise the frame to get the t-case out you'll need to raise it higher to get the bellhousing under the frame. Don't ask me HOW I know.
Is not the 241 larger than a 231 ? I would gladly take the 241 off your hands and trade you my 231.
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How kind of you. I may have to do that if it means getting the transfer case back under the jeep easier
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Great progress was made today. Located a sawzall and cut that seized bolt off in bout 20 seconds. I can deal with the remnants after I do the oil pan and rear main seal.
With nothing obstructing my work, I removed the shift handle and floor boot/plate through the interior. Then I disconnected the reverse switch and crank sensor. With those things out of the way, it was time to remove the bell housing bolts. Four from the back of the transmission to the block, and five holding the transmission to the dust cover (weird flex but ok). And the starter.
We have victory!
Taking @Wildman advice into account, I jacked the ever living crap out of the passenger side to clear the bell housing. Even with this effort, I still had to slide the transmission off of the jack and slide it out from under the jeep via a piece of cardboard (the Savvy GTS box that I had been saving no less), then back onto the jack for mobility. Sorry @RINC , but I have solved my TC clearance issue. This is the first time I've ever pulled a transmission, and I could probably do this twice as fast now knowing what I do now. It was honestly stupid simple.
Some caparison photos:
I will leave that spot blank for 20 years before I pay $150 for a stupid piece of plastic.
Next up, I need to do the rear main seal and oil pan gasket before I move on to anything else. But the auto tranny will go on sometime this week, and then I can finish the wiring loom.
In the end I realized something. The thousands of hours I spent reading about projects that I had no intention of doing down the road actually has helped me so far. Who knew my addiction to this forum was a good thing?
With nothing obstructing my work, I removed the shift handle and floor boot/plate through the interior. Then I disconnected the reverse switch and crank sensor. With those things out of the way, it was time to remove the bell housing bolts. Four from the back of the transmission to the block, and five holding the transmission to the dust cover (weird flex but ok). And the starter.
We have victory!
Taking @Wildman advice into account, I jacked the ever living crap out of the passenger side to clear the bell housing. Even with this effort, I still had to slide the transmission off of the jack and slide it out from under the jeep via a piece of cardboard (the Savvy GTS box that I had been saving no less), then back onto the jack for mobility. Sorry @RINC , but I have solved my TC clearance issue. This is the first time I've ever pulled a transmission, and I could probably do this twice as fast now knowing what I do now. It was honestly stupid simple.
Some caparison photos:
I will leave that spot blank for 20 years before I pay $150 for a stupid piece of plastic.
Next up, I need to do the rear main seal and oil pan gasket before I move on to anything else. But the auto tranny will go on sometime this week, and then I can finish the wiring loom.
In the end I realized something. The thousands of hours I spent reading about projects that I had no intention of doing down the road actually has helped me so far. Who knew my addiction to this forum was a good thing?
Maybe there's hope for me after all!
Nice work. Keep it up. When I pulled my manual to do the clutch, I had a transmission jack. All it did was get in the way. This was before I had done any lift or anything, so I did like you did, used the jack to lower it down and then pulled it off the jack and just man handled it out from under the Jeep. I left the 241 installed too, when it came out. Holy crap that was heavy
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It definitely made it easier to move things around under the jeep, especially since I separated the TC first. I wasn't about to attempt to tackle both together. On a stock lift though I could absolutely see it being more of a burden than anything. I think the TC weighed more than the transmission TBH. Absolute boulder.