I believe AtoZ is another set that bolts to the body and not the mounts.
Looking back I wish I would have gone this route instead of the poison spyders.
While frame mounts sound stronger, they're not and they can also hang up due to their required mounting brackets that run under the tub between them and the frame. Serious rock crawlers all run body mounted rocker guards due to their added strength and better tub protection. Beginners or very casual offroaders tend to run frame mounted only because it sounds stronger or they're afraid to drill holes so they can mount the tub mounted rocker guards.
If you have the $$$ there is no better/stronger/better designed rocker guard than Savvy's which even includes a reinforcement that mounts from the inside to sandwich the tub. These are from when I mounted them on my previous TJ.
I left mine unpainted but you may prefer to paint them. I'm running the same rocker guards on my present TJ.
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I thought we were talking about Jeep TJ rock sliders.
They are picking on you. With a serious bit of good info thrown in to make the post legit. That's just the informed bullying the lesser informed.
It's not the number of bolts holding it in place that make a tub mounted rocker stronger, it's the fact the slider is bolted directly to the tub so there is no leverage available against it that is the main contributor to its strength. There are just enough bolts to secure it in place but they're not seeing a lot of shear force. And better designs like Savvy's do add a plate behind the rocker to give it even more strength. See my above fifth photo.
I've converted a set of the PSC to be mounted correctly. By the time we were done, you're better off buying something that mounts correctly.Can the mounting system be elaborated on a bit more other than saying it is not good? I think I read a while ago that a body mounted slider is better and it must have many holes to tie the body and slider together. If that is the case, simply drilling more holes in the poison spyder or similar slider achieves that and turns something that is so bad into something good. A plate could also be added to the backside of the body to sandwich the pieces together if desired.
Please expand on the difference between good and bad.
We were but then you went there with your blanket dismissal of sound mechanical design by saying, "buy what you like", it doesn't really matter and while you are correct if they are only for aesthetic reasons, you are seriously incorrect if you plan on using them as intended.I thought we were talking about Jeep TJ rock sliders.
These are on mine, done by the PO. they are very solid and I really like the lookHave you seen better DIYs out there? I would love to see a good discussion on this.
Depends on how you define failure. These are some from an owner whose rig I work on a bunch. You can see that small amount of large diameter fasteners has dimpled the sheet metal outwards due to the lower being shoved inward and it levering on the lower part of the tub.Or better yet, who has had sliders fail?
Looking back I wish I would have gone this route instead of the poison spyders.
Looks like we got us another trivia contest with a prize. How about 30% off of a set of any brake pads in the store?
Wait until the picture loads and you can see the two round silver things with red arrows pointing at them. What is the correct name of the two things the red arrows are pointed at?There not fastener, just a sandwich point.
Looks like we got us another trivia contest with a prize.
It is indeed. Let me know when you would like to collect your prize.Is Camtainer correct?