Dave Kishpaugh's (Jeep West) geometry correction brackets are now available

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Brianj5600 said:
I guess I look at hardcore in a different way. What I meant was pushing to or maybe over limit of the vehicle.
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Maybe so. But that isn't happening often around here. I don't pretend I'm there.
 
WSS said:
Who is the “someone”? Maybe I can help.
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If you need help making your short arm geometry correction not hop on big climbs, then ask Brian. He might have figured something out.
 
@jjvw I talked to a psychologist friend of mine. He encouraged me to help you through this issue and not to try to antagonize. He is much smarter than I am so I will take his advise.

How do the brackets make you feel?

Did the brackets harm you in any way?

Did the brackets bully you?

Did they climb onto your rig when you weren’t looking?

Did the brackets touch you inappropriately?

Do the brackets continue to bring you grief?

Did the brackets continue unwanted sexual advances, even after you made it clear you weren’t interested?

Did the brackets peek in your window when you were undressing? Peeping brackets are unacceptable!!!!
 
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jjvw said:
You also can't keep track of what you're upset about.
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I am upset about nothing.
I just can’t figure out why you care so much about these brackets?
There are several fairly smart guys in here who seem to think they may be valuable. I, as well as most in this thread have not made any claim to them being the best thing ever. I am just interested in the fact that they help return geometry to very close to stock. You keep referring to a non problem of axle steer. Most the time it is a non problem, it is created by poor geometry. It is much easier to fit and account for a wheel that moves up and down instead of up and back.
 
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Gollywomper said:
I am upset about nothing.
I just can’t figure out why you care so much about these brackets?
There are several fairly smart guys in here who seem to think they may be valuable. I, as well as most in this thread have not made any claim to them being the best thing ever. I am just interested in the fact that they help return geometry to very close to stock. You keep referring to a non problem of axle steer. Most the time it is a non problem, it is created by poor geometry. It is much easier to fit and account for a wheel that moves up and down instead of up and back.
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Because most of these are non problems. Pretending that they are problems is promoting a lack of understanding. And those fairly smart guys who think they did something valuable are annoying to those of us who actually know what we are doing.

For me, the fact that a bunch of you guys get so bent out of shape and can't even keep track of why you think you are angry at me has reached a level of absurd comedy.

Speaking of absurd, Dave even backtracked and said this was always a street mod and a whole bunch of people convinced themselves that they knew this the whole time. Garrett didn't think that when he bought the kit. Meanwhile, Dave is working behind the scenes with Garrett to correct his geometry correction kit to work better off-road. And now Brian says his version doesn't have the hops. That one sounds like it works better to me. This is all so gloriously absurd.

I'll just keep on suggesting shocks before geometry correction, because it works and it works far beyond the needs of what most need around here. And it is honest. That is why this matters to me.

Now where's my secret agenda check from Savvy for getting so many mid arms sold? Oh....
 
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jjvw said:
Because most of these are non problems. Pretending that they are problems is promoting a lack of understanding. And those fairly smart guys who think they did something valuable are annoying to those of us who actually know what we are doing.

For me, the fact that a bunch of you guys get so bent out of shape and can't even keep track of why you think you are angry at me has reached a level of absurd comedy.

Speaking of absurd, Dave even backtracked and said this was always a street mod and a whole bunch of people convinced themselves that they knew this the whole time. Garrett didn't think that when he bought the kit. Meanwhile, Dave is working behind the scenes with Garrett to correct his geometry correction kit to work better off-road. And now Brian says his version doesn't have the hops. That one sounds like it works better to me. This is all so gloriously absurd.

I'll just keep on suggesting shocks before geometry correction, because it works and it works far beyond the needs of what most need around here. And it is honest. That is why this matters to me.

Now where's my secret agenda check from Savvy for getting so many mid arms sold? Oh....
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Edit: just to be clear, this isn’t sarcasm. I said at least a small bit of this a while ago (about the backtracking), and stopped bothering after. Absurdity was reached a while back...
 
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jjvw said:
Because most of these are non problems. Pretending that they are problems is promoting a lack of understanding. And those fairly smart guys who think they did something valuable are annoying to those of us who actually know what we are doing.
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And there it is. Hey look everyone JJVW is smarter than everyone here. Now we are annoying. Look guys we know nothing
@David Kishpaugh
@NashvilleTJ
@Blackjack
JJVW you are an arrogant prick!!!!!
 
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It may be where I am. I was having WH, made a change and now it doesn't. If I go somewhere with tons of traction it may cause trouble. I don't know how it will work out west. The center of the holes are 6" from the top of the tube for the UCA mounts . I was trying to copy Nth brackets.

This is what I came up with. Something must be wrong it is far off of what others are seeing. If anyone sees something suspect, don't be shy, as if.

Josh I don't know why you are hung up on rear steer.

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jjvw said:
Because most of these are non problems. Pretending that they are problems is promoting a lack of understanding. And those fairly smart guys who think they did something valuable are annoying to those of us who actually know what we are doing.

For me, the fact that a bunch of you guys get so bent out of shape and can't even keep track of why you think you are angry at me has reached a level of absurd comedy.

Speaking of absurd, Dave even backtracked and said this was always a street mod and a whole bunch of people convinced themselves that they knew this the whole time. Garrett didn't think that when he bought the kit. Meanwhile, Dave is working behind the scenes with Garrett to correct his geometry correction kit to work better off-road. And now Brian says his version doesn't have the hops. That one sounds like it works better to me. This is all so gloriously absurd.

I'll just keep on suggesting shocks before geometry correction, because it works and it works far beyond the needs of what most need around here. And it is honest. That is why this matters to me.

Now where's my secret agenda check from Savvy for getting so many mid arms sold? Oh....
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See how good you are!! Bro, you even had knowledgeable folk doubting themselves. Crack open some champagne. Anti-social skills are the norm today but somehow you excel just like your knowledge of geometry. I bow in humble awe.
 
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