They are fire extinguishers and they work. They are compact. Most people never use them and when they do it's on another persons rig that is on fire. When I camp I carry a standard Amerex because everybody knows how to use it and in an emergency I don't have to give a lecture on how to use it. I think that's an advantage but the more people that learn about these newer tech deals the better.
So my Jeep caught fire today
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Mach4x4
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I view the non-intuitive method of "igniting" the Element to be a negative.
It looks easy enough in the video, but working in high-stress environments for a living, I know that fine-motor skills are reduced ten-fold in a life-and-death-situation. It's easy enough to get the traditional extinguisher going. Pull the pin and squeeze. The Element requires two cap removals and a striker motion. Again, sounds simple in practice and really is, but definitely non-intuitive in an emergency situation.
It looks easy enough in the video, but working in high-stress environments for a living, I know that fine-motor skills are reduced ten-fold in a life-and-death-situation. It's easy enough to get the traditional extinguisher going. Pull the pin and squeeze. The Element requires two cap removals and a striker motion. Again, sounds simple in practice and really is, but definitely non-intuitive in an emergency situation.
Mach4x4
Member
Agreed. I regularly read the 1-2-3 on the element. My luck, I will drop the wrong end. The ignition system needs to be simplified.
Hey sorry, haven’t been on here lately. The element feels and is operated almost exactly like a road flare. Bottom cap is the striker, strike away and it begins to discharge. Put out a campfire in short order. I don’t doubt An engine compartment fire would be put out in a few seconds. Flaming liquids on the ground though require you to get a little bit closer to the flames but nothing extreme. Sorry no videos.
I think that GM should put these fire suppression systems in my Bolt EV. They're going to replace the battery, but I'd feel better with one of those.
Thanks for showing the element that thing looks great! I like how compact it is and the run time. I'll be getting the 100 as it's only a couple dollars more than the 50 and still quite compact. It sucks when an extinguisher runs out when you need it!
Remember the element is one and done, that's 100 seconds of non-stop extinguisher. You can't hold off for a second and wait for anything to cool or see how it's doing, it's full on for that whole time.
It is like underwear and insurance, the day you don't have them......You must be fireprone.
Mudflat
TJ Enthusiast
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I also hear that peppermint oil works great.
Good idea! We volunteer in Texas state parks so we’re always looking for better rodent countermeasures. We’ve found a product called “Fresh Cab” that’s available at Tractor Supply & most likely also on Amazon. It’s like bags of potpourri & is fairly strong with a sweet odor. I zip tie the bags a couple of places under the hood & replace them every month or so. I do the same thing with the motorhome.
I also hear that peppermint oil works great.
I like the element system as well, especially the ease of storage.
But, am I the only one that sometimes wishes their Jeep would burn?
But, am I the only one that sometimes wishes their Jeep would burn?
We’ve tried Fresh Cab too. It works good, but it looses its odor and needs to be replaced about as often as the dryer sheets.
And dryer sheets are hella cheaper than the Fresh Cab, plus I always have a bunch at hand.
I found the ones with the most fragrance work the best.
Old_Crow
TJ Enthusiast
There was a guy over on one of the RV forum who tells the story of finding a mouse nest in his coach. It was made out of dryer sheets and placed right over the top of a bar of Irish Spring soap he'd laid in there to drive the mice away.
That’s funny!
Yeah, none of those things work at all once the fragrance is gone, even the Irish Spring!
The key is to change out what ever you’re using to keep the odor strong enough to repel the mice.
Old_Crow
TJ Enthusiast
I live full time in my RV and spend at least 6 months out of the year living in Forest Service campgrounds out in the woods. I fight with rodents all the time. Only thing that works is a good old-fashioned spring trap. Not like mice are an endangered species or something.
