Rear disc brakes on a TJ?

No, my position was that maybe a system that allows people to drive a manual, having been taught to drive and tested for your licence in an automatic may be a contributory factor to the higher level of deaths in the US than the UK or Australia. I do not know if that is the case or not. Even if it is there will be many other causal factors as I am pretty sure it will not be a simple matter.

But it seems you are certain the testing regime isn't a factor, which means you must know what the cause of the difference is. Please feel free to explain what the underlying causes are and point to the academic research that identified them.
When you find the correlation between drivers of manual transmission vehicles and our higher per capita death rate, you're onto something, until then, not so much.

We have higher speeds in lots of areas, we have lower inspections that have to be passed, we have lots of fast cars, lots of shitty roads, lots of shitty drivers, lots of places with icy roads, etc. We also have a very low comparative average of manual transmission equipped vehicles on the roads. Go find another tree to bark up, the coon done left that one.
 
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When you find the correlation between drivers of manual transmission vehicles and our higher per capita death rate, you're onto something, until then, not so much.

We have higher speeds in lots of areas, we have lower inspections that have to be passed, we have lots of fast cars, lots of shitty roads, lots of shitty drivers, lots of places with icy roads, etc. We also have a very low comparative average of manual transmission equipped vehicles on the roads. Go find another tree to bark up, the coon done left that one.
Nope, I simply said it may be a contributory factor, I made no definitive statement, so yes there will be other factors and some you list may be amongst them. It was you that said with certainty that to think it had any bearing on the matter was idiotic, so you are the one on the hook to provide some sort of support for that statement.

PS it was deaths per billion km driven, not per capita, it would be rather hard to have more than one death per capita :ROFLMAO:
 
Nope, I simply said it may be a contributory factor, I made no definitive statement, so yes there will be other factors and some you list may be amongst them. It was you that said with certainty that to think it had any bearing on the matter was idiotic, so you are the one on the hook to provide some sort of support for that statement.

PS it was deaths per billion km driven, not per capita, it would be rather hard to have more than one death per capita :ROFLMAO:
If you think for a split second that licensing manual drivers has anything to do with the disparity in the death rate between the UK and the USA, then you are a fucking moron. Clear enough?
 
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Jerry Brandsford - You are one intelligent person getting out of California. The state is going to be left with the dumbest there is. But they make there own bed.

As an example you have never been a smartly foul mouth on this site and been very positive. You can sure tell if someone is from California on this site by the dirty mouth and language they use.
 
If you think for a split second that licensing manual drivers has anything to do with the disparity in the death rate between the UK and the USA, then you are a fucking moron. Clear enough?
Question: do you think that not separately testing manual drivers makes for safer, or less safe drivers?
 
I’ve never understood why people associate the ability to drive manual with a higher level of driving ability. You can just as easily be distracted or talk on a cell phone or eat or flip off the driver next to you while shifting as you can in an automatic. Driving a manual is not hard, the only hard thing in the US is finding someone who will let you learn in their car.

Anyway, this used to be a thread on brakes before the British colonies started gatekeeping manual transmissions, so…rear disc brakes come standard in all LJs so rather than swap from drums to discs just sell the TJ and buy an LJ!
 
Question: do you think that not separately testing manual drivers makes for safer, or less safe drivers?
What it does is make driving a manual transmission a much bigger deal than it really is. It isn't rocket science. And I fail to see how the type of transmission has any meaningful effect on how safe the driver is going to be.
 
Wouldn't it just be easier when you need to slow down on the highway or coming up to a stop light; to anticipate your need to slow down and just take your foot off the gas pedal to slow down by using vehicle weight, tire rolling resistance and some engine braking.... ?? For me... this works quite well.
This would increase the life of your brakes and clutch assembly...
What not slam on the brakes ! ...... my wife would think she was not riding with me !
 
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I don't like drum brakes so I'm gonna add disc brakes that still have drums. Now my disc brake pads are easy to change, my e-brake works worse and I have smaller drums to worry about instead of big easy ones. This is the dumbest mod ever.
 
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They don't give away a good clutch set these days.:oops:
Maybe next season.
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