Savvy Mid-Arm Deliveries?

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So here is the whole story. I ordered a savvy cable shifter for my 231 transfer case and while i was waiting for it to show up, i purchased a 241. Right after I bought the 241 transfer case my cable shifter showed up. I immediately contacted Katie at Savvy and told her my story and asked her if I should return the cable shifter for the 231 and reorder a new cable shifter for the 241 that I just bought or could they just send me the parts that are different? She suggested just buying the new parts which were $50 extra dollars which I was ok with. She said that someone from the company would send me a Paypal invoice and that she thought the parts were in stock. That was in April. I sent her and the people that sent me an email that they had charged my Paypal account, an email stating I had not received my parts. I have not received a response. I'm so glad that they can take my money but will not respond to me! If I had sent the cable back and bought the new one on Amazon, I would probably have it installed and wheeling! I now know the frustration that everyone has with them. I am tired of the " they are a small company excuses"! If your products are that good hire people!

What you should have done is sold the one for the 231 to another forum member (since they're always backordered, it'd be pretty easy to sell, especially if you discount it ever so slightly), and order the one for your 241. Live and learn, right?
 
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I recently called and asked if my winch guard, a relatively low demand part that was showing in-stock, had a projected lead time. Gerald said he was in Peru and couldn't say but that if it was in-stock it should ship next week.

That was several weeks ago. I'm starting to get concerned and wonder if we need to mount an excursion to the Amazon to get these Savvy parts delivered..

You should have bought a lottery ticket instead (so the luck you expended to actually get Gerald on the phone would have been more useful). My attempts to contact them have been largely unsuccessful.

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I am pretty set of the Tummy tuck and sliders, I bet the list for those two items are as long as any. Hopefully the mid arm kit gets in soon for the sake of you being stuck on that one.
 
Could you possibly just buy the link arm brackets/truss and buy your own arms?
https://savvyoffroad.com/product/mau-bt/

If savvy also has a long wait for their brackets can we buy brackets from somewhere like Barnes? And just make our own kit or is the savvy mid arm specific to their own mounts ?

I have no desire to undertake "making my own" because I trust that Mr. Blaine's design is spot on and easily assembled accurately. I'm fairly knowledgeable regarding shocks, springs, and suspensions for Indy cars, AMA Superbikes, and Snocross sleds, having worked as an engineer on those vehicles. However, I'm at the end of my career now, and I just want an LJ I can build and go have fun. I really don't want to dive into designing a suspension that's new to me, with the associated learning curve. The Savvy mid-arm is proven technology designed by a man who pays attention to the important stuff, and that sounds pretty darn good to me. I hate having to wait on Savvy, but wait I shall. I guess that at some point (I'm closer to that now than ever), I may have to just roll up my sleeves and dive in, but I really don't want to!
 
What's the midarm actually holding up? You should be able to do most things without much consideration. For example: relocate spring perches, outboard, get your travel dialed in, tummy tuck, body lift/raise frame mounts, etc. With careful consideration the midarm can eventually be added (that's my plan, anyway).
 
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What's the midarm actually holding up? You should be able to do most things without much consideration. For example: relocate spring perches, outboard, get your travel dialed in, tummy tuck, body lift/raise frame mounts, etc. With careful consideration the midarm can eventually be added (that's my plan, anyway).

I bought my LJ with one of those goofy Rubicon Express long-arm kits already installed by the PO. I suspect that cycling that suspension to dial in the shock locations will result in issues (unforeseen conflicts) once I get the mid-arm installed, but maybe not. Also, I'm lifting the body with a Genright body mount lift, and some of those occupy the same frame real estate as the brackets for the mid-arm mounts, so having those brackets would be really helpful to not have to do things twice. I also can't do the tummy tuck without cobbling together an interim suspension because the RE long-arm kit has a platform that hangs down that everything connects to.

I also don't know anyone near me with a Savvy mid-arm to look at and measure, so I don't have the option of seeing the "finished product" during my build.

Just too many possibilities for conflict in the build process...
 
That is the million dollar question. If I'm planning to do my front mid-arm in the spring, I'll likely put my Savvy truss order in fall. The truss isn't super expensive so paying up-front and waiting doesn't hurt.

I suspect that the brackets are the hold-up for my order because they do seem to be shipping stock-length control arms somewhat periodically and manufacturing mid-arm control arms would be very similar to manufacturing stock-length controls arms (assuming they are made from the same rod stock - maybe not). If you want to do the mid-arm in the spring, I'd suggest ordering the truss now, especially if the cost is not an issue. I'm at almost six months waiting, which is the time frame from fall to spring you mention.
 
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I bought my LJ with one of those goofy Rubicon Express long-arm kits already installed by the PO. I suspect that cycling that suspension to dial in the shock locations will result in issues (unforeseen conflicts) once I get the mid-arm installed, but maybe not. Also, I'm lifting the body with a Genright body mount lift, and some of those occupy the same frame real estate as the brackets for the mid-arm mounts, so having those brackets would be really helpful to not have to do things twice. I also can't do the tummy tuck without cobbling together an interim suspension because the RE long-arm kit has a platform that hangs down that everything connects to.

I also don't know anyone near me with a Savvy mid-arm to look at and measure, so I don't have the option of seeing the "finished product" during my build.

Just too many possibilities for conflict in the build process...

Some of those definitely make sense. However, ride height is what it is - regardless of the arms. So you could at least get the springs (currie?) and spring seats set. That should let you also get the shocks/mounts set (since the move from short arm to midarm is nearly the same as long arm to midarm) and the 90* rule of thumb is rather soft. I don't think the body mounts collide, but since I am not 100% sure I won't say anything on that one (though I think if you want to do a stretch the midarm does affect that since ideally the bracket overlaps the stretch seam for added stability). If you get your axle square and set where it ought to be the rest should work since you can use the uppers and lowers together to fix the angle without moving the wheelbase (+/- a small amount with the diff cover shape).

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Some of those definitely make sense. However, ride height is what it is - regardless of the arms. So you could at least get the springs (currie?) and spring seats set. That should let you also get the shocks/mounts set (since the move from short arm to midarm is nearly the same as long arm to midarm) and the 90* rule of thumb is rather soft. I don't think the body mounts collide, but since I am not 100% sure I won't say anything on that one (though I think if you want to do a stretch the midarm does affect that since ideally the bracket overlaps the stretch seam for added stability). If you get your axle square and set where it ought to be the rest should work since you can use the uppers and lowers together to fix the angle without moving the wheelbase (+/- a small amount with the diff cover shape).

/end stream of thoughts

On a stock wheel base I don’t see how the body mount and link bracket could possibly overlap. I may not like Blaine, but he’s not an idiot, I can’t see him doing that.
 
I bought my LJ with one of those goofy Rubicon Express long-arm kits already installed by the PO. I suspect that cycling that suspension to dial in the shock locations will result in issues (unforeseen conflicts) once I get the mid-arm installed, but maybe not. Also, I'm lifting the body with a Genright body mount lift, and some of those occupy the same frame real estate as the brackets for the mid-arm mounts, so having those brackets would be really helpful to not have to do things twice. I also can't do the tummy tuck without cobbling together an interim suspension because the RE long-arm kit has a platform that hangs down that everything connects to.

I also don't know anyone near me with a Savvy mid-arm to look at and measure, so I don't have the option of seeing the "finished product" during my build.

Just too many possibilities for conflict in the build process...

The GR body mounts should happen after the mid arm. It's much easier to cope the mounts around the MA frame brackets than the other way around.