LCoG and long arm lifts

The point is
Those are not Jeeps. You can't do this to a TJ. The frames are custom designed for massive up-travel at low ride heights. I wouldn't even call them LCOG because there is still going to be 7-8 inches of up-travel for a balanced 40/60 or 50/50 travel. Its not possible with a boxed ladder frame without massive modifications.

I'm very interested in these types of designs too, so I get your point. But looking at a bomber chasis and saying "thats a jeep" is like looking at this... and saying that bronco IFS works great rock crawling. These are custom designed machines that are built around the LCOG concept with maximum uptravel. They are very good at going fast.

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yeah I get that, I think the Bronco example is extreme though. At the end of the day, a bomber chassis and a fully race-built LJ chassis both end up sitting on coilovers, over front and rear solid axles constrained by something like a triangulated 4 link in the rear and either the same up front with full hydro or a 3 link with track bar and drag link up front. Sure, one has a tube chassis and integrated cage and the other has a boxed ladder frame with a tub on it. What I want someone to say is what about that distinction makes it so the frame height in relation to the belly and UCA mounts is such a make or break characteristic that is somehow perfectly accepted and nearly universal with one, but dismissed as invalid and preposterous with the other.
 
fuck off. you're adding nothing to this thread and there are at least a few posters here that would like to see where it goes without your smug bullshit.

No. Stop ignoring what has already been offered for why bringing in a tube chassis is irrelevant to building a TJ.
 
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Curious where you think this goes? Should have been dead a few pages ago…

it could go into an honest and informative discussion about suspension design free from some ridiculous assertion that we're not allowed to discuss anything but TJs. But...

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Here is what I am referencing to. See how flat the links are and how low the belly is. I would define the Bomber as a long arm low CG design.

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P.S. At least get my name right, it is John not Bill, but you can address me as "Sir". Thanks 😎

A helicopter has longer arms, no shocks, no tires at all, and will beat that to the top of the mountain... Oh wait... this isn't a helicopter forum.... my bad!