EV thread

1667788621258.png
 
The GMC Hummer EV will cost you more to charge from empty to full than just about any other production electric vehicle on the market today. However, this is because it has a massive battery pack. Vehicles that have larger gas tanks cost more to fill up than those with smaller tanks. This certainly isn't rocket science.

That said, the Hummer EV is huge, it's far from slippery, and it uses its large battery pack and electric motors to crank out obnoxious acceleration and torque. For this reason, this electric pickup truck is certainly going to consume more than its peers, but that's a different story for a different day.

Today's video, which was put together by our good friend Kyle Conner at Out of Spec Reviews, is strictly related to how much it costs to charge the Hummer EV from zero to 100 percent.

The GMC Hummer EV Edition 1 has a battery pack that's over 200 kWh, which is one of the largest in the industry. In fact, many of today's EVs have battery packs that are well under 100 kWh, or about one-third as large as the Hummer's, though there are many exceptions.

At any rate, now that you have a better understanding of EVs and battery pack sizes, you'll probably agree that it only makes sense the Hummer EV is more expensive to charge to full than its rivals.

Kyle pulls into a DC Fast Charging station with an "empty" Hummer EV to charge it to full. Keep in mind that the cost to fill the electric truck will be a completely different story if you're charging it at home. Home charging is significantly less expensive, and if you own a Hummer EV, you should plan to charge it at home as often as possible.

Without giving away all the interesting details, we will tell you that it took the Hummer EV about 2.5 hours to charge. The Electrify America session billed Kyle for 224 kWh, which could set you back about $100 before taxes and fees. However, there are different pricing tiers and membership benefits, which will save you some money.


https://insideevs.com/news/621437/gmc-hummer-ev-charging-costs/
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: pc1p

Ford F-150 Lightning Pro Is a Better Deal Than a Tesla Powerwall​


Anyone with solar panels at home will probably look for battery packs to store the electricity for when they actually need it – at night for most people. What if, instead of a Tesla Powerwall, people bought a Ford F-150 Lightning Pro? Jason Fenske, from Engineering Explained, did the math and recommended people to do precisely this.


https://www.autoevolution.com/news/...etter-deal-than-a-tesla-powerwall-179807.html
 
  • Like
Reactions: pc1p

Ford F-150 Lightning Pro Is a Better Deal Than a Tesla Powerwall​


Anyone with solar panels at home will probably look for battery packs to store the electricity for when they actually need it – at night for most people. What if, instead of a Tesla Powerwall, people bought a Ford F-150 Lightning Pro? Jason Fenske, from Engineering Explained, did the math and recommended people to do precisely this.


https://www.autoevolution.com/news/...etter-deal-than-a-tesla-powerwall-179807.html
Yea, I'm going to add charge/discharge cycles to an expensive battery pack and wear it out quicker...
 
My son (7) was talking to me about how we should get an electric car next because of how ICE pollutes. We had a good conversation about how they pollute very similarly overall, just at different parts of their lifecycle - but how that has and will shift. We also discussed the useful life of an ICE vehicle which can last significantly longer than an EV and the types of waste each creates.

I don't think he fully understands it yet, but I know he is thinking about it now. EVs will eventually win out, however.

I won't buy any new vehicle though. Since you never truly own them.

Hey @rasband didn't the government just lock your thermostats last month?
 
I think they have their place - and would have a bigger piece of the pie if they weren't so damned expensive. Batteries are a huge part of that expense - I'd be happy with an EV with a 60 mile real world range at mostly freeway speeds that used cheap and easy to replace lead acid batteries. And no bullshit technology - just a good PWM controller and an E-meter.

Good old lead acid batteries
 
The GMC Hummer EV will cost you more to charge from empty to full than just about any other production electric vehicle on the market today. However, this is because it has a massive battery pack. Vehicles that have larger gas tanks cost more to fill up than those with smaller tanks. This certainly isn't rocket science.

That said, the Hummer EV is huge, it's far from slippery, and it uses its large battery pack and electric motors to crank out obnoxious acceleration and torque. For this reason, this electric pickup truck is certainly going to consume more than its peers, but that's a different story for a different day.

Today's video, which was put together by our good friend Kyle Conner at Out of Spec Reviews, is strictly related to how much it costs to charge the Hummer EV from zero to 100 percent.

The GMC Hummer EV Edition 1 has a battery pack that's over 200 kWh, which is one of the largest in the industry. In fact, many of today's EVs have battery packs that are well under 100 kWh, or about one-third as large as the Hummer's, though there are many exceptions.

At any rate, now that you have a better understanding of EVs and battery pack sizes, you'll probably agree that it only makes sense the Hummer EV is more expensive to charge to full than its rivals.

Kyle pulls into a DC Fast Charging station with an "empty" Hummer EV to charge it to full. Keep in mind that the cost to fill the electric truck will be a completely different story if you're charging it at home. Home charging is significantly less expensive, and if you own a Hummer EV, you should plan to charge it at home as often as possible.

Without giving away all the interesting details, we will tell you that it took the Hummer EV about 2.5 hours to charge. The Electrify America session billed Kyle for 224 kWh, which could set you back about $100 before taxes and fees. However, there are different pricing tiers and membership benefits, which will save you some money.


So here’s an interesting comparison:
(fuel cost for my TJ vs a Tesla model 3 owned by a guy I work with).

Punch line 1st: $0.37 per mile vs $0.031 per mile (the TJ does NOT win).

The math:

My friend commutes 70 miles one way, one way 4 days/week. He charges at home and work and gets about half his charging in each location. The cost of the electricity at work is $35 per month. (We own the building and are able to separate the kw for the charger). So, 70 miles one way x 4 days x 4 weeks = 1120 miles/month. $35/1120mi = $0.031/mi.

My TJ gets 13.5 MPG on my commute (and about the same with w/ highway driving). At $5/gal (I paid almost $6/gal for my last tank), that’s $5/13.5 miles = $0.37/mi.

That’s 11.9x higher fuel cost! If gas cost $1/gal, the Jeep would still cost over 2x more.

On the flip side, I like driving my TJ about 20x more than his Tesla, but that’s just me😁
 
  • Like
Reactions: pc1p and Apparition
So here’s an interesting comparison:
(fuel cost for my TJ vs a Tesla model 3 owned by a guy I work with).

Punch line 1st: $0.37 per mile vs $0.031 per mile (the TJ does NOT win).

The math:

My friend commutes 70 miles one way, one way 4 days/week. He charges at home and work and gets about half his charging in each location. The cost of the electricity at work is $35 per month. (We own the building and are able to separate the kw for the charger). So, 70 miles one way x 4 days x 4 weeks = 1120 miles/month. $35/1120mi = $0.031/mi.

My TJ gets 13.5 MPG on my commute (and about the same with w/ highway driving). At $5/gal (I paid almost $6/gal for my last tank), that’s $5/13.5 miles = $0.37/mi.

That’s 11.9x higher fuel cost! If gas cost $1/gal, the Jeep would still cost over 2x more.

On the flip side, I like driving my TJ about 20x more than his Tesla, but that’s just me😁

You need to fix your TJ, that MPG is too high.
 
140 miles a day of driving would suck. I drive 12 miles a day and hate that. What a waste of a 1/2 hour a day. My wife works from home.
 
  • USA Proud
Reactions: Apparition
140 miles a day of driving would suck. I drive 12 miles a day and hate that. What a waste of a 1/2 hour a day. My wife works from home.

Agreed. At least its freeway in southern Oregon so its pretty and traffic isn't bad at all.