I'm just waiting until they scale UP an Axial SCX-10!
As long as there is demand companies will continue making and modifying solid axles for older vehicles and solid axle swaps. I wonder if there are enough of us around to create that demand?4wd solid axle design will probably be obsolete ( meaning not offered on new vehicles) in the next 10 years. That leaves a massive hole in the axle industry. It’s concerning to me what these companies ( employees) will do if the demand dwindled.
A simple google search (one of the top results) of vehicles registered in CA indicated 20% is a gross exaggeration, or terrible math. Looks a lot closer to 3% in CA to me. Even the new car sales is showing only around 8%.And I know people keep saying EV just isn't catching on. Well maybe where you live. EVs count for about 20% of the cars on the road here.
As far as modification to stock EVs making them offroad capable. It wont be difficult. Longer A-Arms, better coilovers
As long as there is demand companies will
Very few will have the means to SAS a new Rivian but one that is ten years old? Might be a thing.
A simple google search (one of the top results) of vehicles registered in CA indicated 20% is a gross exaggeration, or terrible math. Looks a lot closer to 3% in CA to me. Even the new car sales is showing only around 8%.
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What Percentage of New Car Sales are Electric?
The sharp increase in electric-vehicle registrations at the start of 2022 meant that the EV share of the overall market in the U.S. hit a historic 4.6 percent.... Currently, it's estimated that around 1 percent of the 250 million cars, SUVs, and light-duty trucks on American roads are electric.
So lifting an independent suspension is that simple? Then why do guys with independent suspensions spend thousands of $$$ and many hours doing solid axle swaps? It's not for comfort and drivability.
As long as the vehicle isn't unibody construction it isn't terribly difficult.A simple google search (one of the top results) of vehicles registered in CA indicated 20% is a gross exaggeration, or terrible math. Looks a lot closer to 3% in CA to me. Even the new car sales is showing only around 8%.
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The sharp increase in electric-vehicle registrations at the start of 2022 meant that the EV share of the overall market in the U.S. hit a historic 4.6 percent.... Currently, it's estimated that around 1 percent of the 250 million cars, SUVs, and light-duty trucks on American roads are electric.
So lifting an independent suspension is that simple? Then why do guys with independent suspensions spend thousands of $$$ and many hours doing solid axle swaps? It's not for comfort and drivability.
So the last census collected data I could find for registered personnel vehicles is CA listed 14.2 million in 2020 (that 17.7mil number was 2010 census). Nearly 30mil registered gas vehicles in CA, huge amount of commercial vehicles. Matched with your data of registered 425,300 registered electric vehicles in 2020 gives CA a nearly 30% EVs for personnel uses.
As long as the vehicle isn't unibody construction it isn't terribly difficult.
Glad to hear someone is thinking about aftermarket on the future rigs
I'd like to dig into these numbers with you further, but I'm very limited on time right now. Assuming the 425,300 EVs in CA (I wonder how many of those are fleet vehicles) is accurate, and at a 30% rate, that would indicate there are only 1,417,667 vehicles in CA. I don't know for sure, but I’d guess that the greater LA area alone has more registered vehicles than that. My stated 3% would have registered vehicles in the 14,000,000+ range.
I'm genuinely curious about the numbers, as accurate as we can find them, to see what the actual market size is. Until then, I'll assume Car & Driver's 1% EVs nationwide is accurate, although I've read elsewhere that it's closer to 2%. Maybe one of those includes fleet vehicles and the other doesn't. Either way, it's still a small, niche market.
we can't afford 100k $ cars
30% of Californians?we can't afford 100k $ cars. we're too busy trying to make due in this terribly expensive state
Performance wise they can blow the doors of a conventional gas engine.
EV’s take way less labor to produce
Idk, considering the cost of a lot gas vehicles, EV’s are looking more competative price wise
This is something constantly said by EV people, yet there are plenty of videos of AWD Teslas lining up against similarly priced vehicles, like a RWD Hellcat, and loosing at the end of the track. So the AWD tesla has the jump from the line due to traction, as AWD vehicles tend to, but looses when traction, speed and power come in.
How so? What part(s) of an EV is easier to produce?
I do agree with that. Vehicle prices have gotten out of control. It's nothing to see a new Chevy/Ford/Dodge truck with a sticker price of $80,000+
Isn’t there even a new drag racing class just for EV’s, I’m not 100% sure, but I thought I have seen something on it.
I believe it was GM that just stated with EV it’s 40% less labor to produce
There are some people adapting all this electric tech outside of the box, aka guys throwing Tesla motors into side by sides.
Like any new tech, there will be bumps along the way, but with tech there will be great advancement.
I think the power source will remain as the limiting factor. If they can figure out a way to shed the battery weight while gaining in energy storage, then I think EVs will become something more than just a toy. Until then, I think they're doomed just as they have been for decades now.