Rubbing on ORO SwayLOC

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All I’ve just added the ORO SwayLOC on my ‘06 LJ and am getting rubbing.

is there anything I’m missing or is my only recourse new wheels or adding spacers?

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All I’ve just added the ORO SwayLOC on my ‘06 LJ and am getting rubbing.

is there anything I’m missing or is my only recourse new wheels or adding spacers?

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You either need lower backspaced wheels, wheel spacers, a washer or two on the steering stops, or if it only happens on one side adjust your trackbar so it’s centered. If you set your links for maximum bump (extending the links more) then it will move up out of the way of the tire as well.
 
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All I’ve just added the ORO SwayLOC on my ‘06 LJ and am getting rubbing.

is there anything I’m missing or is my only recourse new wheels or adding spacers?

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I know this post is old but wanted to see best coarse of correction for tire rub. I just put on 315/75R16 tires for the first time on my jeep and after the first trip out noticed I had cut several outer lugs of the new tires when it rubbed. Only noticed it rubbed once and that was backing up to turn around from a road that had been washed out. The edge of the swayloc arm is sharp and cut several lugs. Anyone else have that issue. I was thinking I should even round the edge down on the arms but didn't want to ruin the finish....although after cutting up a $300+ tire, the finish doesn't mean too much. Thoughts?
 
I know this post is old but wanted to see best coarse of correction for tire rub. I just put on 315/75R16 tires for the first time on my jeep and after the first trip out noticed I had cut several outer lugs of the new tires when it rubbed. Only noticed it rubbed once and that was backing up to turn around from a road that had been washed out. The edge of the swayloc arm is sharp and cut several lugs. Anyone else have that issue. I was thinking I should even round the edge down on the arms but didn't want to ruin the finish....although after cutting up a $300+ tire, the finish doesn't mean too much. Thoughts?



With that size tire I needed 1.5” spacers to clear my antirock, 1.25 wasn’t enough with stock moabs. Sorry to hear about the tire, that sucks
 
I know this post is old but wanted to see best coarse of correction for tire rub. I just put on 315/75R16 tires for the first time on my jeep and after the first trip out noticed I had cut several outer lugs of the new tires when it rubbed. Only noticed it rubbed once and that was backing up to turn around from a road that had been washed out. The edge of the swayloc arm is sharp and cut several lugs. Anyone else have that issue. I was thinking I should even round the edge down on the arms but didn't want to ruin the finish....although after cutting up a $300+ tire, the finish doesn't mean too much. Thoughts?

I had the same problem with 4.5” backspace and 35x12.5r15. I added a 0.25” wheel spacer for a final backspace of 4.25” and added a washer to the steering stop. Now I barely touch the ORO SwayLoc at full articulation.
 
I know this post is old but wanted to see best coarse of correction for tire rub. I just put on 315/75R16 tires for the first time on my jeep and after the first trip out noticed I had cut several outer lugs of the new tires when it rubbed. Only noticed it rubbed once and that was backing up to turn around from a road that had been washed out. The edge of the swayloc arm is sharp and cut several lugs. Anyone else have that issue. I was thinking I should even round the edge down on the arms but didn't want to ruin the finish....although after cutting up a $300+ tire, the finish doesn't mean too much. Thoughts?

Unless you were blasting the radio or have limited hearing, you heard the tire making contact. They tend to do different things in reverse, be aware of that, pay attention to the sound and turn it back until it stops. You don't need to be holding it at full lock with the power steering pump in bypass anyway.

That and I need to see this "cut up" tire.

With that size tire, you should be 4" of back spacing down to 3.75". Where are yours?
 
I had the same problem with 4.5” backspace and 35x12.5r15. I added a 0.25” wheel spacer for a final backspace of 4.25” and added a washer to the steering stop. Now I barely touch the ORO SwayLoc at full articulation.

Not smarter than the steering wheel? Music too loud?
 
Unless you were blasting the radio or have limited hearing, you heard the tire making contact. They tend to do different things in reverse, be aware of that, pay attention to the sound and turn it back until it stops. You don't need to be holding it at full lock with the power steering pump in bypass anyway.

That and I need to see this "cut up" tire.

With that size tire, you should be 4" of back spacing down to 3.75". Where are yours?

Took me by surprise actually. I've had tire rub before that sounded around the same as this did with no damage. I'm at 3.75 for back spacing if I recall correctly. I'll be checking things over closer today to see what's going on. I'll include a pic of a lug or two that didn't fair well in a follow up post.
 
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I switched wheels and tires and got rid of the rub. Added a 1.5" spacer, JK Moab wheels and 265/70/17 tires and no more rubbing. Before with Ravine Wheels and 31/9.5/15 tires the tire would rub on the SwayLoc link bolt. Cut the protruding bolt flush with the nut on the arm linkage but changed to the 17" wheels before I had a chance to see if that helped. With the 15" wheels the tires would rub on that bolt at near full lock on the steering. Got a good deal on the JK rims and tires so it was a painless 'fix'.
 

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Took me by surprise actually. I've had tire rub before that sounded around the same as this did with no damage. I'm at 3.75 for back spacing if I recall correctly. I'll be checking things over closer today to see what's going on. I'll include a pic of a lug or two that didn't fair well in a follow up post.

Ok, so definitely hitting edge of swayloc arm and bolt head of swayloc upper link on drivers side.

Haven't looked at passenger side yet (other than I can tell i rubbed but it didn't cut tire like it did on drivers side.

My wheel backspace is 3.5".

If I want to keep from rubbing, it looks like I'd have to add a bunch of bump stop.

Something isn't right 🤔 but not sure where to go from here. Any ideas ?

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Ok, so definitely hitting edge of swayloc arm and bolt head of swayloc upper link on drivers side.

Haven't looked at passenger side yet (other than I can tell i rubbed but it didn't cut tire like it did on drivers side.

My wheel backspace is 3.5".

If I want to keep from rubbing, it looks like I'd have to add a bunch of bump stop.

Something isn't right 🤔 but not sure where to go from here. Any ideas ?

Going full bump my upper cups aren't centered with lower bump stops. Haven't noticed that the axle isn't centered at ride height. Should the axle be centered at full bump ? Taking measurements from frame to nipple on upper ball joint to center?

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If the axle isn't centered and you have an adjustable track bar, getting it centered will help on one side but may bring the other side into conflict. There will be small sideways displacement of the axle during it's articulation but you can't do much about that. Center axle with the jeep sitting on the ground in its usual stance and load. Chunking the tread means you've really forced the tire into rubbing on the bolt. Listen for the sound of conflict and feel in the wheel and back off as soon as you hear/feel it.

You've added substantial width to the tires which is what brought the rubbing to light. You need to add spacers to move the tires outboard. Others more familiar with spacer effect on steering may want to join in with reccomendations. Putting washers behind the wheel stops might solve the problem but could increase the turning radius to the point it's not acceptable.
 
Have you looked into lengthening the links? I set my arms as high as they could go without running into things at full stuff/bump. They still rub a little but nowhere near tire damage territory.
 
Have you looked into lengthening the links? I set my arms as high as they could go without running into things at full stuff/bump. They still rub a little but nowhere near tire damage territory.

That's a good thought. That will help some. I still think there is something else not quite right for it to interfere as early as it does. Steering hard stop is 1.5" away at the point it starts interfering. If I didn't like the swayloc as much as I do I could solve my problem by taking it off.

Couple things I need to do. Check axle center at ride height. See how much more clearance lengthening links will get me.

Even spacing out my tires another 3/4" (already running 1.25" spacer to get 3.5" backspacing) doesn't yield enough clearance.

I still think to the trained eye someone could point out what's different. Sure seems lots of others run this tire size and haven't heard/read about tire rubbing stories.

Anyway, appreciate the feedback and ideas that have been coming in.

Photo is the steering stop distant and which it interferes with swayloc arm.

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So looking at steering stops today I noticed that one side does not hit the axle steering stops but is the end for the steering box, where the other direction the axle steering stop limits further motion.

How do I know when I'm centered within the steering box? And how do I prevent breaking the steering wheel spring. Looks like I could rotate steering wheel until splines meet up again (looks like 4 larger clocking splines on steering shaft).

Any help is appreciated.