No vibe UCF LoPro mount

AndyG

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If you read reviews, the LoPro mount from UCF is notorious for vibes at idle. @Jamison C and I were looking at the options and his concern was also the vibes, so hopefully this helps him and some guys out.

One of my goals is smoothness for my ‘04 build, along with higher clearance and ease of entry/exit (aka not too much lift), so I ordered the mount and skid.

Bolted it up and sure enough, it buzzed. The first thing I did was loosen the skid plate a little bit and I noticed it went away immediately and that told me that something was transferring the engine vibrations-

So I got to really really looking all over it and It wasn’t just one issue there were a number of things that were keeping this innovative mount design from doing its job with no drama.

The Lo Pro transmission mount itself is basically nothing more than a hinge- And when you think about how a door closes and stays close to the frame, that same concept is being transferred to your vehicle. The challenge is it gets everything so close that there’s little margin of error- and multiple points of metal to metal contact you need to dial out.

Following are some pictures and some things that I found that solve this -

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This is how tight it is - The 4 primary 15mm bracket bolts can contact the skid. Also if you look really close you can see the four 5/16” bolts that mount through the skid plate into the lower part of the transmission mount go through the upper part as designed (there are larger holes in the upper 1/2) - but they are so long they contact the bracket above as well. A shorter bolt is needed. Keep in mind transmissions move when in use.

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Above shows the bolt indentation- This is direct contact that bypasses the rubber isolation completely.

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Above you can see the 15 mm bolts and you’ll notice that two of them can easily touch the lower part of the hinge that is isolated from the upper part by rubber- So not only are the bolts touching the skid plate but they’re touching the lower part of the hinge so you’ve got engine vibration and transmission vibration transferring to the skid and over to the frame at multiple points. The lateral flex in the bushing does not help any here either.

I created a little bit more of an hourglass effect
to clear the bolts. Not pretty but effective.

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To address the lateral hinge slop- I added a washer to compress the bushing- it actually would move so much it also allowed the 15 mm bolts to contact the lower 1/2 bypassing the isolation - This tightened the lateral movement considerably but it seems a 14mm bolt may be a better fit inside the bushings’ steel sleeve. Looking into that.


Next I went ahead and mounted the new mount back on the transmission and added some 1/8 inch thick rubber isolation washers between it and the primary bracket-look close- this is just more isolation. This thing needs all the help it can get.

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Now notice the 4 mount bolts - These are so long they come in contact with the bottom of the transmission mount bracket- shorter ones go in with washers, and then smaller 1/8” thick rubber washers at the skid to further isolate vibes.

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While the skid was off I went head and did the Savvy cable - just for the record, do not put a Rubi in 4lo and drive with the front tires on dolly’s in the garage, pointed at your dirt bikes. Just don’t.

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The skid has to be clearanced at these 4 points so the brackets studs and 15 mm nuts don’t contact the skid-
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Next the skid mounts with these 1/8” larger rubber isolaters-

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My front skid is on and now I’m down to mounting the pumps and final bolt up.

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Will update this later in the week.

Right now UCF is a good source for quality, high clearance skids and other parts, and they can often ship the next day. The LO PRO
Mount is going to transfer vibes if you don’t sweat the details. I found out quick it won’t just by playing with it - and did these steps to insure I get the isolation needed once it is all final assembled.

If you buy it and just bolt it up, based on the tight tolerances, odds are you are going to get some pretty good vibes.

AndyG

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Andy I am enjoying this build!!! Keep it up, knowing you're OCDism for things like this, I can't wait to see it in person!!!!
 
In the Lo-Pro instructions, it mentions grinding down about 1/8” from the heads of some of the bolts (can’t remember off the top of my head which ones). Is that one of the things you did?

I like the washer idea to help tighten up the runner bushings.
 
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it seems like most of these problems could be fixed by redesigning using 3/16" plate steel instead of 1/4" and a thicker rubber pad.
 
In the Lo-Pro instructions, it mentions grinding down about 1/8” from the heads of some of the bolts (can’t remember off the top of my head which ones). Is that one of the things you did?

I like the washer idea to help tighten up the runner bushings.

No I ground more clearance around them at mount instead it’s just a matter of raising the bridge or lowering the water- I didn’t want to mutilate those studs coming out of that bracket. Wished I had instructions too.

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it seems like most of these problems could be fixed by redesigning using 3/16" plate steel instead of 1/4" and a thicker rubber pad.

Nope. The lateral flex is a the product of the bushing tolerances and a thinner steel would just create more headaches with the studs and nuts. Make it tighter.

If he would put the same 1/4” rubber material that sandwiches in the mount on the transmission bracket side of the hinge that would do some good, full surface, and provide an acorn nut maybe or flatter nut, then reshape the bracket some.
 
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No I ground more clearance around them at mount instead it’s just a matter of raising the bridge or lowering the water- I didn’t want to mutilate those studs coming out of that bracket. Wished I had instructions too.

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I was wrong, it was 1/16". They have the instructions on their Lo-Pro mount page. I think they are an older version though when they used those blue poly bushings.

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That mount looks pissed off over your cutting skills. 😁
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Its not but Matt at UCF probably is-

I’m actually thinking about getting one and basically sort of redesigning it- bigger bolt to stop lateral flex

Full 1/4 isolation on very top

Plasma cut the clearance.
 
I was wrong, it was 1/16". They have the instructions on their Lo-Pro mount page. I think they are an older version though when they used those blue poly bushings.

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That will help but even if you do it the lateral flex is going to get the lower half into the side of the nuts-

Just wiggling the skid at skid install could do it - the bottom half will move with it

The best bet is to start the four bolts, then install skid loose too, then make sure the mount is fairly neutral that you’re not bonding the rubber and pushing the mount laterally, then snug the skid and then the mount last.
 
Hopefully the mount doesn't bend or break at the narrow point. Not much metal there and its acting like a lever.
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The bolts you are trying to clear go into the factory mount bracket right? Can those holes be slotted and scoot the bolts outward instead?
 
very interesting, I have been toying with a tummy tuck and/or a lo-pro mount for a flat skid for a while. knowing removing the vibes is possible (if annoying) puts alot of UCF's stuff back on the table
 
Hopefully the mount doesn't bend or break at the narrow point. Not much metal there and its acting like a lever.
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The bolts you are trying to clear go into the factory mount bracket right? Can those holes be slotted and scoot the bolts outward instead?

actually for something to be a lever it has to have a fulcrum-

If you look at the fact that it’s just one side of the hinge, There’s really never any significant stress on it- And at the most I removed about 1/8 inch of material”.

The bolts come from the primary Transmission Bracket to receive the stock mount. The stover bolts could be moved but you would almost need a new bracket

I follow what you’re saying but the stress just is not there nor can it be.

The way this thing is designed it allows upward movement of the transmission and twist rather than totally controls it like the stock mount.
 
actually for something to be a lever it has to have a fulcrum-

If you look at the fact that it’s just one side of the hinge, There’s really never any significant stress on it- And at the most I removed about 1/8 inch of material”.

The bolts come from the primary Transmission Bracket to receive the stock mount. The stover bolts could be moved but you would almost need a new bracket

I follow what you’re saying but the stress just is not there nor can it be.

The way this thing is designed it allows upward movement of the transmission and twist rather than totally controls it like the stock mount.
You're right,it wouldn't bind and try to bend.It would be the weight of the engine and trans trying to bend it there.the hinge side doesn't hold itself horizontal like the trans side does. Anyway good job catching the nvh interference and hope it works well.
I'm trying to decide on which skid height to go with right now. very interested in these ucf skids/mount.i want to leave room for a possible atlas in the future.
Which drop did you settle on for your rubi? Do you have a body lift?
 
You're right,it wouldn't bind and try to bend.It would be the weight of the engine and trans trying to bend it there.the hinge side doesn't hold itself horizontal like the trans side does. Anyway good job catching the nvh interference and hope it works well.
I'm trying to decide on which skid height to go with right now. very interested in these ucf skids/mount.i want to leave room for a possible atlas in the future.
Which drop did you settle on for your rubi? Do you have a body lift?

No body lift, going blank on the word drop- catch me up on what you mean- thanks
 
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