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The hardtop weighs almost as much as you do!
That's what I'm saying lol looks like an awesome way to ruin your lower back
Is this a serious recommendation
Nut up buttercup.
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Cut me some slack, I've only been out of the city for a few weeks
Build a stand to take it off like a truck bed camper. Something that picks it up a few inches so you can drive out from under it.
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I've been wondering lately what it would take to get me onto 35" tires.
I'll have to complete my adjustable control arm set and get some front uppers I'm sure, that's easy.
I'll need a 4" lift.
Is there anything else really? Obviously I need to regear and either get an automatic or give up and buy an Atlas, too.
@jjvw You're the only person I think I've seen properly fit 35s without highline fenders, did you have to do anything special to make that happen?
I'll have to complete my adjustable control arm set and get some front uppers I'm sure, that's easy.
I'll need a 4" lift.
Is there anything else really? Obviously I need to regear and either get an automatic or give up and buy an Atlas, too.
@jjvw You're the only person I think I've seen properly fit 35s without highline fenders, did you have to do anything special to make that happen?
No need for highlines. Arms, track bars, 4" springs and 1.25" body lift and shocks is the bare minimum to get them to fit. The rest is to make the Jeep work and behave nicely.
An automatic would largely eliminate the want of an Atlas. Then you might want an Atlas for different reasons.
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Perfect. I have all adjustable everything minus front uppers, and the BL. The tummy tuck seems to be like 90% of the way to fitting 35s.
Yep lol, I'll need that 10:1 ratio if I can't find an automatic
Otherwise, probably won't.
I ran 35's on mine with a ProComp 4" lift and 1.25" BL. I didn't even have adjustable arms at first.
I did have a SYE and then a Tera-Low.
I did have a SYE and then a Tera-Low.
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Hell yeah! So if it wasn't for my gear ratio, I could make the change over one weekend probably. And then you know, 5 more adjusting everything perfectly. That's the part I'm unexcited for
I think I'll probably end up regearing my axles myself now that I have somewhere I can leave them inside and take my time realistically. Probably still won't have the money for the setups for a while, and can't take the jeep down until I get my other car back from the shop.
Hell yeah! So if it wasn't for my gear ratio, I could make the change over one weekend probably. And then you know, 5 more adjusting everything perfectly. That's the part I'm unexcited for
I think I'll probably end up regearing my axles myself now that I have somewhere I can leave them inside and take my time realistically. Probably still won't have the money for the setups for a while, and can't take the jeep down until I get my other car back from the shop.
I'd regeared to 4.88 already. Bought some used gears. (Not recommended) I was able to use 5th again with 33" tires. But I had 4 angry squirrels.
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I bet that was nice lol I am definitely driving a 4speed already. 3.55 ratio.
Saving on labor will be nice, but 2 gearset install kits, lockers (probably elockers after seeing all you guys have all them problems with air lines lol), and the tools to do it... still gonna be a lot.
The hard part is I'll have to decide if I'm going to give up on the automatic or not when I do the gears
Just keep looking. A automatic will pop up. If you're sure it's what you want. For sure decide before doing the gears which I know you already know this.
Here's mine on 35's. I'd added the ACOS spacers because my front was sagging from the 8274 up front.
Here's mine on 35's. I'd added the ACOS spacers because my front was sagging from the 8274 up front.
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Looks good, mine would honestly look exactly like that in the summer except for the sliders and color of the half doors lol!!
Yeah, I mean I'm not sure I want the automatic, but I KNOW I need a solution for crawling. I'm so sick and tired of slipping the clutch up obstacles, and even more so, my "minimum speed" going down.
So you regear for highway speeds and the TCase is where your crawl ratio is how you're supposed to view it right?
I ask cos, maybe my real problem is I have no idea what a taller ratio in my TCase would be like. Would it be as miserable with the rubi tcase and the 5spd? What if I was also a 5.13 gear (what I'd do if I stayed manual IIRC)? What about a steeper 7:1 or 10:1 like you can get in the Atlas?
I know I'll miss the manual off the rocks 100% - but it seems worth it cos I want to do more crawling.
Maybe I need to drive someone elses jeep
If you stick with a manual the crawler t-case helps a lot. Going to 4:1 for me was a huge difference off-road. With my current setup I have the best of both worlds.
3.05 for most stuff and 5.44 for the technical stuff.
For 35" tires and your manual transmission you'd want 5.13 gears. It'd be fine on-road and would help off-road.
It used to be the thought to be around 100:1 crawl ratio. I don't know if that theory has changed.
I've never driven a rig with really deep gearing but have seen the Toyota's with really low gearing.
3.05 for most stuff and 5.44 for the technical stuff.
For 35" tires and your manual transmission you'd want 5.13 gears. It'd be fine on-road and would help off-road.
It used to be the thought to be around 100:1 crawl ratio. I don't know if that theory has changed.
I've never driven a rig with really deep gearing but have seen the Toyota's with really low gearing.
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Yeah, I wonder how much even that would solve my complaints. Maybe I can find a rubi with a manual at TJ Fest and switch beeps for a sec.
How often did you wish the 5.44 was deeper?
Okay cool, thanks for confirmation. Yeah, I do think I'd likely end up wanting an Atlas with a deep gear and something similar to the np231, after seeing rubi owners complain about going so slow in 4lo? The 2 ratio one is expeeeensive though.
I've seen that too, seems like they are at like 6-7.00 ratios in their axles. I always figured that had more to do with the pathetic output of the 22re that they all seem to love
With my automatic I've only maybe once wished for a deeper gear. It's amazing how slow it will crawl down or up something.
This is where it's hard. If you have a crawler case then those times you want taller gears you're limited to 4wd High range. And your only options for multiple gearing is expensive. Be it a Atlas 4 or a Hero box.
Most guys I knew had 5.71 axle gears I think but had the double t-case. I only knew one who had a triple case.
Yes see if Ryan will let you drive his LJ. He has a RubiCralwer so you can really see what low gears are like.
Even if it's only around the parking lot.