BMB (Black Magic Brakes) body lift kit available now!

Zorba said:
For your application? I dunno - BUT - zinc coatings would dissolve in a matter of weeks in my world - in fact, we used Zinc as a sacrificial anode so that would "go off" instead of everything else. As far as stainless goes, we used 816, and 816 ONLY. Even that would corrode unless it was passivated and polished.
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The problem that we encountered with zinc was structural fasteners failing due to hydrogen embrittlement.

We had used cadmium plating prior to the zinc but regulations made it near impossible to use.

Then we found PTFE coatings which met the offshore needs without sacrificing the strength.
 
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1904-06LJR said:
@mrblaine these look like a great product with great timing. Have you floated the idea of offering a "modified" kit for those of us wishing to install the raised body mounts? Meaning, a kit that offers just the remaining five pucks with hardware + grill snubbers? I'd definitely be interested in something like that since it would avoid having to buy a full kit and not using six pucks due to the raised mounts. Thanks in advance...
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I have not considered it. I do recognize that it is something that should be offered since we deal with that exact same problem all the time. I will work that up as a product as soon as I get any sort of a breather. Thank you for the reminder and I'm sad I didn't get there first.
 
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Zorba said:
For your application? I dunno - BUT - zinc coatings would dissolve in a matter of weeks in my world - in fact, we used Zinc as a sacrificial anode so that would "go off" instead of everything else. As far as stainless goes, we used 816, and 816 ONLY. Even that would corrode unless it was passivated and polished.
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That is the problem I see as well. Zinc in any iteration as a plating other than hot dipped galvanized just doesn't have enough horsepower to last very long in the rust prone areas.
 
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Apparition said:
The problem that we encountered with zinc was structural fasteners failing due to hydrogen embrittlement.
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Isn't that supposed to be readily solved by baking the fasteners after plating at specific temperatures?
Apparition said:
We had used cadmium plating prior to the zinc but regulations made it near impossible to use.
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We can get some cad plating done. I'm a fan but too inconsistent to use all the time.
Apparition said:
Then we found PTFE coatings which met the offshore needs without sacrificing the strength.
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That has got to mess with torque spec and maintaining torque.
 
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spiccolli said:
I appreciate your feedback and I do trust in your kit - I'm just not knowledgeable enough to know exactly what I need for a body lift. Do I need a MML if i do a body lift? - I'm that guy that doesn't understand why stuff is the way it is - I'm IT and just learning about my TJ now. Anyone know of a thread that explains body lift and how it affects the motor mounts, transmission mount, radiator, etc? - Thanks - just trying to learn before I do something to my rig that I regret.
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I'd start a thread and get some feedback on what you plan to do with your rig. Ignore them that are offended by body lifts. They simply don't understand bang for your buck mods.
 
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mrblaine said:
I have not considered it. I do recognize that it is something that should be offered since we deal with that exact same problem all the time. I will work that up as a product as soon as I get any sort of a breather. Thank you for the reminder and I'm sad I didn't get there first.
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No worries, I think we can all agree you are a very busy man and we appreciate you taking the time to entertain us. So don't be sad...no one like a sad Blaine. ;)
 
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1904-06LJR said:
No worries, I think we can all agree you are a very busy man and we appreciate you taking the time to entertain us. So don't be sad...no one like a sad Blaine. ;)
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@mrblaine , How busy can you be? You seem to answer phone calls and emails so promptly it almost seems you are sitting around waiting to help us clueless jeep addicts like the Shell Answer Man sitting next to his phone. 😁
 
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mrblaine said:
Isn't that supposed to be readily solved by baking the fasteners after plating at specific temperatures?
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Yes, heating can solve it. I can't recall why they didn't want to continue down that path. It was nearly 20 years ago. May have been cost related.

mrblaine said:
That has got to mess with torque spec and maintaining torque.
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We had to spec out a different torque value. Never had any issues maintaining torque.
 
mrblaine said:
I have not considered it. I do recognize that it is something that should be offered since we deal with that exact same problem all the time. I will work that up as a product as soon as I get any sort of a breather. Thank you for the reminder and I'm sad I didn't get there first.
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Maybe a kit with the raised mounts?
 
Weasellee said:
@mrblaine , How busy can you be? You seem to answer phone calls and emails so promptly it almost seems you are sitting around waiting to help us clueless jeep addicts like the Shell Answer Man sitting next to his phone. 😁
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He's one of the most efficient multitasking people I know. That's how he does what he does, while also working on his Jeep build projects.
 
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Weasellee said:
@mrblaine , How busy can you be? You seem to answer phone calls and emails so promptly it almost seems you are sitting around waiting to help us clueless jeep addicts like the Shell Answer Man sitting next to his phone. 😁
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I work 1/2 a day typically, sometimes a couple hours more. I have a few projects I am working on currently.
Rear Illumination. Options for plate light in a few variations.
License plate holder, fairlead mount style.
Snatch block.
Body lifts and while this initial run is out, I need to refine the process to get it profitable enough to keep doing them and I will either through brute force, economies of scale, or some combination thereof.
Recovery stuff is never ending.
A few other things that aren't able to be talked about yet.
And my long time machinist quit on us so I'm teaching a new one. That is painfully time consuming. I'll have 2-300 hours all in by the time I get good parts from him on a continual basis.

All of the above is extra-curricular past getting the orders out, inventory, ordering, and maintaining stock levels for our normal BMB stuff.
 
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Apparition said:
Yes, heating can solve it. I can't recall why they didn't want to continue down that path. It was nearly 20 years ago. May have been cost related.
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Odd, sometimes when I get brake or nutsert hardware, especially the metric flange bolts in 10.9 or better, we have to get plain and have them plated. The plating shop always checks to see if I want them baked to fix the hydrogen problem. I don't recall it being cost prohibitive.
 
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PRNDL said:
Do you have an time frame for when rope will be available to purchase?
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I do not. And, not for any reason you may suspect. I'm evaluating some samples and as soon as two things happen, we'll have them.
PRNDL said:
Can the green soft shackles be ordered now?
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No, but very soon. We have a very large batch of them on the way. As soon as they arrive, they will go on the website for sale. I have 4 samples. I might can be talked out of 2 of them but that's it.
 
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