Actually, the top half of my frame that wasn't cut off had a coating of Eastwood's on it. The shop sanded it down a bit (for better adhesion) before applying the 3M product.
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Actually, the top half of my frame that wasn't cut off had a coating of Eastwood's on it. The shop sanded it down a bit (for better adhesion) before applying the 3M product.
I also wouldn't use a rubberized coating on the underside. Inside the frame I'm not too concerned about it trapping moisture, because with the full Safe T Cap repair, the only access holes now are the two drainage holes at the bottom of the trail arms. The original frame has many holes along the length that allow water, salt and debris to enter. That being said, I will give it a Fluid Film treatment every year or two.
With that level of rust you will also need to check the torque boxes, and it's entirely likely that your trans skid plate mounts are seriously impacted. And how is your fuel tank skid? Can of worms, meet: can opener.
Has anyone used the all in one safe T cap on a compromised frame? If so how did you support the vehicle?
I am concerned about jack stand placement since im going to be cutting out suck a large section.
I am concerned about jack stand placement since im going to be cutting out suck a large section.
I can't answer your question, but I will say that the installer who repaired my frame is not a fan of the "all in one" repair section. He prefers to use three separate pieces to allow for adjustments when fitting. He did cut the entire rotted length of the frame out before fitting the new sections. His shop is a Safe T Cap company recommended installer.
I just dont see a problem, that frame is pristine ! a few layers of duck tape, some structural bondo and a few cans of high gloss black paint and it'll be just fine ! why y'all make such a big deal over a little light surface rust ?
ChasUGC
TJ Enthusiast
Just wondering if it's a good idea to powder coat that stuff before you put it on?
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ChasUGC
TJ Enthusiast
I believe this is what they do when they plan to sell it.
Will manage to goof up the welding process since it needs to be bare metal and it will cook off a lot of the remainder anyway during the process, besides on a nasty frame it will probably outlast the remainder.
Alternatively go south or west and buy a frame. Maybe even a tub.
I just tub and frame swapped mine in Oregon for $1300.
Trailer your Jeep out, swap the frame and go on an epic wheeling trip.
-Mac
I just tub and frame swapped mine in Oregon for $1300.
Trailer your Jeep out, swap the frame and go on an epic wheeling trip.
-Mac
ChasUGC
TJ Enthusiast
So, you could powder coat the inside, since no welding will take place there? And you can tape off the ends where the welding takes place and then spray it afterwards? Or is that overkill? Just trying to learn the best way to proceed, just in case.
It's like 10 ga or lighter sheet steel and there's a fair bit of welding (heat), no saying what's left after the process and you still need to deal with coatings inside and out after the process anyway.
That isn't how proper welding works. A good well fully penetrates plus the areas adjacent to the welds get more than hot enough to destroy coatings.
That sounds like a lot of work but an ideal option. I couldn't find one near by for a good price and this kit was $700.
I'm just really concerned about holding it up in the air
The only other thing i could think of was using the body mounts since they seem okay to hold up some of the weight.
annihil8ted
Member
I wouldn't, I think it would only interfere with the welding process. Besides, even with it being on the underside, I think it would be slightly strange just having a single powder coated piece
Personally, I'd spray paint it afters or skip paint all together to go with a fluid film of some sort
ChasUGC
TJ Enthusiast
Maybe it is all part of the problem with the longevity of the process of welding the frame together and why the manufacturer didn't powder coat everything under our Jeeps. Or maybe they just wanted us to keep buying them after they all rusted out. Anyway, I love my Jeep. lol.
Both of my ebay ones came with some type of coating on it. Not sure what it was. My friend added more weld to the inside bolts and more welds to the seams. I only painted the outside. Since this is not a DD and I plan to make sure the inside frame stays dry. I am not too concerned. I also plan to drill the extra drain holes that everyone recommends.
If you want a weldable primer I'd use Steel It.
If you use Steel It get a good respirator... loaded with Chromium.
Great coverage from a can and the flat black is deep and gorgeous. Used it inside my front axle truss and generally inside any steel cavity I'm welding on.
-Mac
If you use Steel It get a good respirator... loaded with Chromium.
Great coverage from a can and the flat black is deep and gorgeous. Used it inside my front axle truss and generally inside any steel cavity I'm welding on.
-Mac
Vtx531
TJ Addict
Ya, I wouldn't worry about the inside either. More important to keep the metal clean and get good welds IMO.
I'm surprised more people don't add weld to the seams like you said and grind/sand to get a factory looking bend radius on the edge to those repair panels.
When most frame repair shops do it, they put the lift pads on the frame to body bolt locations.