I don't know why it slipped off the axel pad it just did. I'm not sure how long it's been like that.I don't have spring retainer clips. Jeep stopped including them pretty early on. Under what circumstance did the spring slide off the axle pad? That might be a whole other topic.
Why do you want to replace the springs? Mixing springs is generally fine. Maybe don't do it if the difference in height is several inches.
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I can't tell that it slipped. There is a pocket for the tail end of the spring to fit in to. When you reinstall, just make sure it is sitting correctly.
One reason for a spring to slip is if the shocks are too long for the springs. Meaning that is the axle droops further than the length of the free spring, it can flop around. This is not desirable, but not necessarily dangerous. We can discuss that more is that is what is happening. You'll know when your did into this.
One reason for a spring to slip is if the shocks are too long for the springs. Meaning that is the axle droops further than the length of the free spring, it can flop around. This is not desirable, but not necessarily dangerous. We can discuss that more is that is what is happening. You'll know when your did into this.
You've taught me alot so far. Thank you. Here's another question. Lol
How doing know what size shocks to buy?
Is it just shocks for 3.5"?
Happy to help.
Not necessarily. There are too many variables for a blanket recommendation like that to be reliable.
When you figure out your bump stop extension, pay attention up front to how much bump is needed without the shocks installed and the axle/tires at full flex. I'll call that the minimum amount of bump stop. Measure the space between shock mounts. That is your minimum compressed shock length. Now droop the axle just until the springs begin to unseat. This is your maximum extended shock length. A little longer is fine.
Find a shock whose compressed and extended lengths fit near these measurements. The travel should be split roughly 50/50. I like to be have more up travel than down. The optimal shock will likely need some additional bump stop to prevent over compression, while still providing the most overall travel.
This is a process. But it is one that allows you to make the most of what your Jeep has available.
Rancho 5000x has a nice variety of compressed and extended lengths. Go to the Rancho website to see the various measurements.
Nicholas
TJ Enthusiast
Not a problem at all. As as you can tighten the cup and extension to the mount, the bolt length does not matter.
Nicholas
TJ Enthusiast
Was looking at rancho shocks online. You wanna know something funny? I have Ranchos rear shocks and trail master front shocks. They are the 7000 series. Do you think trail master shocks are any good? I notice the 7000 shocks are cheaper than the 5000 or 9000 Ranchos. Whats the difference between 5000, 7000 and 9000?I have 3.5" so would you go with a 2.5 - 4" shock or a 3.5 - 4" shock? Looks like the second choice might be stiffer??? Or there's even 2.5 - 3.5" shocks.
I don't know anything about Trail Master. I've read that the 7000 is stiffer than the 5000x. The 9000rs has a long compressed length with less travel than the comparable 5000x.
I got my front 5000x's for under $50 each on Amazon with free shipping. They seem to be a nice shock for a TJ.
My rears are Fox, so I'm also mismatched for now!
After all of this, what do you think the right answer for shock sizing will be?
I know man lol you want me to go through the process to figure out my up and down travel. But what you said to me might as well been greek. Hahaha I don't know how to figure my bump extension or pay attention up front to bump spacing with shocks off at full flex. Idk what that means in laymen terms. To calculate the minimum. I kinda get what you say about the drooping the axle which I have to do anyway and a little longer is ok. That would be the maximum is that with the shocks off also. And once I get these numbers will the different shocks I can order actually give me travel numbers to choose from?I don't know anything about Trail Master. I've read that the 7000 is stiffer than the 5000x. The 9000rs has a long compressed length with less travel than the comparable 5000x.
I got my front 5000x's for under $50 each on Amazon with free shipping. They seem to be a nice shock for a TJ.
My rears are Fox, so I'm also mismatched for now!
After all of this, what do you think the right answer for shock sizing will be?
I'm confused about the difference between the full kit and the upgrade. I'd need the full kit, right?
The full kit is the arms and brackets along with the 4" lift kit. There is more to it as far as getting it all to fit. My build thread has more details.
I think you would only need the upgrade, but it isn't quite that simple.
Run through the process one time and pay attention to the movements and how the parts of the system interact. I think it will become far more clear. Focus on setting the bumps for your existing setup.
I love that man! It's never quite that simple. With a direct blanket answer. You gotta cycle suspension... and watch the travel and change that a few degress. Hahaha
Well I have 2 steering stabilizers on my jeep one is black and looks like normal and the other is just like a shock. I'm not sure how to order a new shock steeringYou're catching on.
That's easy. Just get rid of the TM stabilizer. Good steering in good repair only needs the little factory damper.
Hahaha That's not what I asked you bro. I have alot going on that needs fixed. Please help on the TM steering stabilizer. I got a list of stuff I have to do. Lol