Places like Moab are absolutely bizarre. I was doing things and seeing things that can't happen in Colorado.
Whats wrong with a Rough Country lift?
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Moab is different. Sometimes it can seem as if the slickrock is affording too much traction.
It is certainly different than volcanic rock, and different still than decomposed granite.
It is certainly different than volcanic rock, and different still than decomposed granite.
I'm not sure what you mean. They do handle different. Especially with higher weight transfer (climbing). Wheeling midwest dirt is much different than high traction rock faces. High antisquat doesn't present itself until you have higher traction.
In my opinion, someone who likes their short arm lifted at 4 inches who rockcrawls doesn't have the same appreciation for a good climbing rig.
Brianj5600
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Doing some google homework I found this. "I remember measuring a lifted short arm rig years ago. 4 inches I believe. It was at 200% antisquat in the rear. It's no wonder I got rid of them almost 10 years ago..." I have seen a few other numbers a little lower too. PS that quote is from pcoplin 5 years ago.
I guess my TJ just doesn't work well enough to do what I do.
No room for improvement? I stand by nobody would build your geometry from a clean sheet.
I guess my TJ just doesn't work well enough to do what I do.
Jerry, I feel the same way about my RC lift kit.
There's nothing wrong with that. Sounds like it suits you perfectly. Just letting people know that there's more performance to be had if a guy is looking for more. That's why there's the Savvy midarm out there, it's the best handling suspension outside of straight custom IMO.
Well dang, either he's smarter than me, or my memory is terrible.
Here's a climb I'm particularly proud of, from April this year. Never been up Rocker Knocker like this, took me a couple tries. And my suspension isn't a short arm.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sjbw1p6iwtf2gz0/20190422_143857.mp4?raw=1
The more I learn about suspension, the more I'm able to see where the problems lie with my short arm. I think for muddy climbs and general boulder-type rock crawling, a short arm works fine. But when you get into a lot of traction and very steep obstacles, the problems start to become easier to spot. I can think of plenty of times when my Jeep has started to hop or the front has gotten a bit too light for my taste. The fact that I can't spin my tires on steep, traction heavy climbs without hopping is my biggest complaint about the short arm. But I can also think of plenty of times when climbing up a boulder or doing low traction mud type stuff when the short arm worked just fine.
I definitely don't know a lot about suspension, but I've been starting to work through some of the math and concepts regarding geometry. The real world experiences I've had tend line up a good amount.
I definitely don't know a lot about suspension, but I've been starting to work through some of the math and concepts regarding geometry. The real world experiences I've had tend line up a good amount.
Brianj5600
TJ Expert
Well dang, either he's smarter than me, or my memory is terrible.
Here's a climb I'm particularly proud of, from April this year. Never been up Rocker Knocker like this, took me a couple tries. And my suspension isn't a short arm.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sjbw1p6iwtf2gz0/20190422_143857.mp4?raw=1
Nice! A little momentum works wonders. What size tires and wheelbase?
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38 inch Patagonias and 108. Tub is stretched 8 inches so it looks normal and not comp cut.