This is what the electric Jeep is going to look like at Moab

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So if you go out into the middle of no where don’t you still need gas for your generators if your Jeep battery dies???

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Lots of history to say an electric Jeep would be a good thing.
Until Henry Ford the choice of electric or gasoline was pretty equal.
If they would shelve the aerodynamics and build one with clearance, I'd buy one.

The worlds record at Pikes Peak is held by an electric VW.
I'm not a fan of the sound but electric beats the heck out of gasoline.

 
Would be really cool if the made the hardtop had a solarpanel option where it would charge during the day to help. OR a hard “TOP” that is simply a fixed solar panel with soft windows... I mean I don’t think I’ve ever drove without having a safari top on so...
 
Lots of history to say an electric Jeep would be a good thing.
Until Henry Ford the choice of electric or gasoline was pretty equal.
If they would shelve the aerodynamics and build one with clearance, I'd buy one.

The worlds record at Pikes Peak is held by an electric VW.
I'm not a fan of the sound but electric beats the heck out of gasoline.

I understand it’s becoming a trend now but I don’t like when people try to buy electric cars to say they are saving the planet. I also just like good old gasoline or Diesel engines. Also I don’t even liek newer engines in general because they build them with horribly low quality that’s the main reason I wanted a tj.
 
The electric car fans seem to think the energy coming out of a house socket is free and "green". Its like they don't understand there is a coal fired generator at the other end of the wire. And a solar panel on the roof would do little to charge up the onboard battery pack. Might be able to power the radio, but not a whole lot more.
 
The electric car fans seem to think the energy coming out of a house socket is free and "green". Its like they don't understand there is a coal fired generator at the other end of the wire. And a solar panel on the roof would do little to charge up the onboard battery pack. Might be able to power the radio, but not a whole lot more.

Sounds like you barely understand solar power grid systems and other options like the back up battery packs system for solar systems.
Gas engine is the horse and electric engine is the future. Doesn't mean you can't ride a horse today they are still around but it's stupid and unnecessary for daily commuting. I guess you never saw a Tesla solar power charging stations or Google head quarters with solar panels all over the campus.
My take is I can't wait for self driving electric cars and electric jeep with 600hp torque for all wheels and 1000 mile range per charge.

I have only 12x solar panels on my roof with 3000 watts with each panel making 250 watts each. I'm getting a positive gain in electricity for the whole year and is sent back to the grid. Since I live in a sunny state i dont need as many panels to produce enough to run my house. If I add 8x panels I can run a Tesla free for the whole year too. That's electricity and my system is warranty for 25 years.
 
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The electric car fans seem to think the energy coming out of a house socket is free and "green". Its like they don't understand there is a coal fired generator at the other end of the wire. And a solar panel on the roof would do little to charge up the onboard battery pack. Might be able to power the radio, but not a whole lot more.

I have a 2019 Bolt EV in addition to my 01 TJ and Land Rover LR4. I also have solar and generate more than I use each year. I don't really care about the environment impact of it all, but just do it for financial reasons. PG&E constantly raises electricity rates and is already the highest in the region. The EV is just for commuting and saving gas because i need with the other two vehicles. In the summer, my peak electricity rate is .40792 per kWh and I think it just went up again!
 
The electric car fans seem to think the energy coming out of a house socket is free and "green". Its like they don't understand there is a coal fired generator at the other end of the wire. And a solar panel on the roof would do little to charge up the onboard battery pack. Might be able to power the radio, but not a whole lot more.
Most of the power in my area is coming from a hydroelectric dam and solar and wind is going up everywhere.
 
Nice video below by Engineering Explained. He takes into account different sources that generate electricity for the grid.

TLDW: Assuming worst case scenario where all electricity is generated by natural gas, an EV will still have less of an impact on the environment than other vehicles.

 
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Electric cars are sooooooooo cool! Really. Nothing can pollute the ground like giant worn out lithium batteries! Oh, sorry, spent uranium rods can. Perhaps we dump the old batteries in the underground storage in the desert next to the rods....

My old TJ is a hybrid. It has an electric starter. Does that count?
 
If you want to know anything about power I can try to answer. I've designed and optimized just about every type of power plant used. From my internship 30 years ago at a nuclear plant to the solar and wind we're building now.

What works in SoCal definately doesn't work everywhere. That's why we have wind here.

Its estimated that it will take 50 million acres of land to put up enough solar and wind to replace our current electrical load. Each car is basically another house when converted to electricity. Not counting home heating converted to electricity.

We built a 1000 MW natural gas combined cycle on 164 acres last year and this year we're building 500 MW of wind on 90,000 acres.

So there are some complications with renewables but they do pay well due to government mandates and tax credits.
 
Electric cars are sooooooooo cool! Really. Nothing can pollute the ground like giant worn out lithium batteries! Oh, sorry, spent uranium rods can. Perhaps we dump the old batteries in the underground storage in the desert next to the rods....

My old TJ is a hybrid. It has an electric starter. Does that count?
Lithium batteries and uranium nuclear spent rods can be recycled. The batteries can be broken down to 95%-100% and put back to use. Also spent Rods can be recycled and put back to Nuclear reactors and used to point now instead of millions of years of radioactive nuclear material down to only couple of hundred of years.
We live in a brave new world bro. We can recycle everything if you build it right.
 
Solar for recharging the jeep out on the trail isn't practical at this time. If the entire surface area of the jeep was covered in solar panels, and charged for an entire day, you might get enough to go a few 100 yds. That assumes you are in direct sunlight (and the panels are clean). Around here, it's all woods. I've tried solar charging on hiking trips for just my phone. There isn't enough sunlight with the current solar cell technology. They may get there eventually, but they are not there now.
 
Fossil fuel consumption is going to be around for a long time to come... I have yet to see any mine that runs on all electric equipment. Electric haul trucks still have to run a diesel engine to power the generator that runs the wheel motors and hydraulics. Large electric shovels run 720 KV (720,000 volts), and they have to be hooked up to grid power. As remote as some mines around the world are it isn't feasible to build wind/solar/hydro/geothermal electric plants to power the mining industry.
 
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