Savvy CE-9100SA questions

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Folks,

Ordered and received my Savvy CE-9100SA control arms. On the Savvy website it shows greasable bolts, but I received solid bolts. It also states that the arms have wrench flats, but mine do not. No machined flats, just round stock. Seems odd, the flats would be nice to hold the arm while locking down the jamb nut. Also why does a JJ need a greasable bolt, seems the clamping force would hold the ball and the arm would rotate on the bearing, what does the grease do? Should I email Savvy or just install them and roll with it?

https://savvyoffroad.com/product/ce-9100sa/
 
The greasable bolts are pretty much useless. They were for certain JJ's that had holes thru the race that would accept the grease thru the bolt. AFAIK those aren't supplied with any of the Savvy kits. The best way to grease the JJ is to take it apart. Most won't even accept any thru the zerk fittings.

You can use a pipe wrench on the arms. Mine don't have wrench flats, nor do any that I've seen online.

TL;DR... you're fine and there's no need to email/call
 
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Maybe @Jerry Bransford or @mrblaine can fill in the blanks.

However I recall reading that the wrench flats caused more harm than good. You should be able to spin the arms by hand.

For doing the jam nut, just orient both joint heads the direction you’ll need to torque the jam nuts with a flat head/pry bar. Then alternate tightening the jam nut on each side over and over. That will help you keep the heads aligned (allowing for more movement) and get it tight without lengthening the arm.
 
Folks,

Ordered and received my Savvy CE-9100SA control arms. On the Savvy website it shows greasable bolts, but I received solid bolts. It also states that the arms have wrench flats, but mine do not. No machined flats, just round stock. Seems odd, the flats would be nice to hold the arm while locking down the jamb nut. Also why does a JJ need a greasable bolt, seems the clamping force would hold the ball and the arm would rotate on the bearing, what does the grease do? Should I email Savvy or just install them and roll with it?

https://savvyoffroad.com/product/ce-9100sa/
Greaseable bolts work okay, they don't seal at the slots at the front axle side lower so they don't work very well there. Best is to pull them apart periodically and grease just the races and ball.

Wrench flats are bad when combined with low amounts of anti-seize. Folks would put a wrench on the flat and crank the arm longer or shorter without doing the other side at the same time. When the pressure got high enough, that would gall the threads, lock the joint up in the arm and ruin both.

Best way to tighten the arm is it rotate both ends against the inside of mount in tightening direction. Snug one jam nut down until you feel the arm start to turn. Do the other end, then alternate back and forth until they are tight. A couple of back and forth and the arm will lock down hard enough that you can heave on it without breaking the other end loose.
 
Folks,

Ordered and received my Savvy CE-9100SA control arms. On the Savvy website it shows greasable bolts, but I received solid bolts. It also states that the arms have wrench flats, but mine do not. No machined flats, just round stock. Seems odd, the flats would be nice to hold the arm while locking down the jamb nut. Also why does a JJ need a greasable bolt, seems the clamping force would hold the ball and the arm would rotate on the bearing, what does the grease do? Should I email Savvy or just install them and roll with it?

https://savvyoffroad.com/product/ce-9100sa/
Out of curiosity how long did it take to recieve your order?
 
Greaseable bolts work okay, they don't seal at the slots at the front axle side lower so they don't work very well there. Best is to pull them apart periodically and grease just the races and ball.

Wrench flats are bad when combined with low amounts of anti-seize. Folks would put a wrench on the flat and crank the arm longer or shorter without doing the other side at the same time. When the pressure got high enough, that would gall the threads, lock the joint up in the arm and ruin both.

Best way to tighten the arm is it rotate both ends against the inside of mount in tightening direction. Snug one jam nut down until you feel the arm start to turn. Do the other end, then alternate back and forth until they are tight. A couple of back and forth and the arm will lock down hard enough that you can heave on it without breaking the other end loose.
Looking inside the bolt hole of the Johnny joints there is no hole or anyway for the grease to enter the joint from the bolt. Am I right I’m thinking the bolt clamps the ball and the joint rotated on the races, not the bolt? If so greaseable bolts would do nothing.

I understand what your saying on the flats. I’ll be sure to apply antisieze to all threads. Picked up a 1lb bottle.
 
Looking inside the bolt hole of the Johnny joints there is no hole or anyway for the grease to enter the joint from the bolt. Am I right I’m thinking the bolt clamps the ball and the joint rotated on the races, not the bolt? If so greaseable bolts would do nothing.

I understand what your saying on the flats. I’ll be sure to apply antisieze to all threads. Picked up a 1lb bottle.
Nobody with a brain makes a joint that rotates on the bolt.
 
Hole in dere fur grease no?

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Called Savvy. They say Currie changed the joints to not have holes or require greaseable bolts. The pictures on the website and the description is old and needs updated. Looks like I got a mix of new style and old style joints. I’ll start installing them today after I take them all apart and antisieze the threads.
 
Greaseable bolts work okay, they don't seal at the slots at the front axle side lower so they don't work very well there. Best is to pull them apart periodically and grease just the races and ball.

Wrench flats are bad when combined with low amounts of anti-seize. Folks would put a wrench on the flat and crank the arm longer or shorter without doing the other side at the same time. When the pressure got high enough, that would gall the threads, lock the joint up in the arm and ruin both.

Best way to tighten the arm is it rotate both ends against the inside of mount in tightening direction. Snug one jam nut down until you feel the arm start to turn. Do the other end, then alternate back and forth until they are tight. A couple of back and forth and the arm will lock down hard enough that you can heave on it without breaking the other end loose.
I tightened exactly as you suggested.

You mentioned low amounts of anti-seize. I didn't use any anti-seize when I put all 4 rear on, do you suggest putting that on somewhere? Savvy Double adjustable CAs.
 
I tightened exactly as you suggested.

You mentioned low amounts of anti-seize. I didn't use any anti-seize when I put all 4 rear on, do you suggest putting that on somewhere? Savvy Double adjustable CAs.
Apply Anti-seize at joints where dissimilar materials meet (steel joint threads in aluminum arms).
 
Greaseable bolts work okay, they don't seal at the slots at the front axle side lower so they don't work very well there. Best is to pull them apart periodically and grease just the races and ball.

Wrench flats are bad when combined with low amounts of anti-seize. Folks would put a wrench on the flat and crank the arm longer or shorter without doing the other side at the same time. When the pressure got high enough, that would gall the threads, lock the joint up in the arm and ruin both.

Best way to tighten the arm is it rotate both ends against the inside of mount in tightening direction. Snug one jam nut down until you feel the arm start to turn. Do the other end, then alternate back and forth until they are tight. A couple of back and forth and the arm will lock down hard enough that you can heave on it without breaking the other end loose.


Did exactly this. Got your washers too, and the front lowers went on super easy. All 4 slots needed some filing, they were all a touch too small in the middle of the slot for the washer to slot, but slightly filed and they went in snug and flush. Put this off way too long, amazing to feel how much swhoosh she had under me.