How illegal is your Jeep?

How many vehicle codes does your Jeep violate (where you live)?

  • 1-2

    Votes: 22 22.9%
  • 3-4

    Votes: 14 14.6%
  • 4-5

    Votes: 5 5.2%
  • 6+

    Votes: 10 10.4%
  • None, I'm legit!

    Votes: 43 44.8%
  • All of them, I'm not road licensed!

    Votes: 2 2.1%

  • Total voters
    96
How is it hard for anyone to get ID in this day and age? Thats like saying minorities and low income individuals dont go to school or to work or drive cars or fly on aeroplanes or drink in bars or cash a cheque or open a bank account all of which requires ID?
You are born with ID even in Upper Mongolia :)
Yeah, you can do all of those things without an ID in the US. Schools usually issue their own photo IDs. Some jobs have more lax hiring requirements. Low income individuals in the US are most certainly not flying anywhere though. You can cash a check at the corner store without an ID in a a lot of places. You probably don't have a bank account if you fall into this category. Bars are tougher but if you build a rapport you can overcome it.

Yes, there are a ton of reasons why you should and would have an ID. My point is that we voting is a universal right, and that even though something seems obvious to us doesn't mean its obvious to everyone. Why create barriers where we don't need them? Voter fraud is practically non-existent without requiring IDs, so is it really worth it to deny the right to vote to a few million people because of the fear of something that doesn't exist?
 
Yeah, you can do all of those things without an ID in the US. Schools usually issue their own photo IDs. Some jobs have more lax hiring requirements. Low income individuals in the US are most certainly not flying anywhere though. You can cash a check at the corner store without an ID in a a lot of places. You probably don't have a bank account if you fall into this category. Bars are tougher but if you build a rapport you can overcome it.

Yes, there are a ton of reasons why you should and would have an ID. My point is that we voting is a universal right, and that even though something seems obvious to us doesn't mean its obvious to everyone. Why create barriers where we don't need them? Voter fraud is practically non-existent without requiring IDs, so is it really worth it to deny the right to vote to a few million people because of the fear of something that doesn't exist?
But they can all buy a cell phone and go on FB & Twitter lol.
You are living in The Twilight Zone :)
 
Oregon is super chill about lifted 4x4 stuff in general.
https://www.liftlaws.com/oregon_lift_laws.htm
But my tires have 1" or so actual tread past the fenders, no rear plate light, no front plate at the moment. So three I can think of.
With number plate recognition in the whole of Australia now you are less likely to get pulled over once the cop car behind you has run an automatic instant check so its in our best interest to have a rear plate light working, where people mostly get pinged for non compliance is when speeding, tail lights not working or random breath/ drug tests which are common here.
Also new drivers have to display "P" plates (provisional plates) for 2 years and those displaying "E" plates (extraordinary license) they must be zero alcohol and drive below speed limits, so they get stopped all the time.
Extraordinary licence is issued when a person looses their licence but without driving would cause undue financial hardship, these licenses are issued for a to work and back home only route or during business hours for self employed.
so not many actually get pulled over for mods here unless you are young or obviously a bad driver to begin with.
 
Other than the kilo of coke. Nothing
That’s Alabama. It’s not the car, its the contents and the criminal history of the driver they are more interested in.

You can manage to get a loud pipe ticket if you straight pipe V8’s , but I’ve never seen much vehicle scrutiny here.
 
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I used to teach traffic code in the police academy around the DFW metroplex. We would go through the entire Transportation Code in about 20 hours, everybody knew the standard stuff already so I would skip mainly to the "wive's tales" that weren't true and the obscure stuff. All of the violations were mainly so you had probable cause to stop people and check for warrants and other greater offenses. Rarely would you actually write someone for the obscure codes, though one night I stopped a car and the driver had an active warrant for an unpaid ticket from another city for "No Red Reflector on Bicycle at Night". That guy must have really pissed off the officer.
My favorite bullshit PC. Improper hand signals.

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My favorite bullshit PC. Improper hand signals.

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I caused a cop to go on stress leave because of this, he came up to the side and rear of me in an unmarked and shouted through his speaker to put my arm in the window, it scared the shit out of me and I swerved and hit a kerb they sped off laughing. I took his plate and wrote a letter to the department head about him almost causing an accident! both him and his partner were way out of area and the department insisted on me meeting with him so he could apologize to me in person, I declined twice, I felt sorry for him afterwards but he was really only sorry he got caught out of area.
 
I have never heard of this exemption, I'll have to look into that. I'm getting mine inspected for the first time since I bought it last year, and I bought it in a county with no emissions so I've only got one sticker. Although everything I've heard about PA emissions is that they just check to see that the gas cap is tight, basically just a way to get a few more bucks a year.

I never heard of it either until I got the TJ because before that I never drove a vehicle less than 5000 miles/year so it never applied to me... I stumbled onto it when I got it inspected & my mechanic told me it was exempt. They still put a sticker on so you'll get a second one next to your safety inspection sticker. I'm not sure if you'll have to have the emissions testing the first time around though since it has no sticker, there may need to be a baseline date/mileage reading to go off of... my mechanic explained to me that in order to qualify for the exemption the inspection must be done at least 365 days after the last one & the odometer must read less than 5000 additional miles. They write all that stuff on the back of the sticker so it's pretty simple, they look at the date and mileage then slap an 'exempt' sticker on.

As far as the PA emissions testing goes generally, I think you're right; in almost 40 years of driving I don't think any of my cars ever failed one, & I've driven some real shit boxes. I do think though the TJ would fail because it throws so many codes, so the exemption plays right into my lazy approach of not fixing them

https://www.emissions.org/loc/pennsylvania-emissions-testing/
 
I dont think I'm violating any codes but in FL there are no inspections and the law enforcement officers don't seem to care. I can't think of a time where someone I know got pulled over for a brake light, anything.

Edit: I do know someone who forgot to put their renewal sticker on their license plate....for a year and never got pulled over.
my daily has a renewal sticker from 17 on it the others are just in the glove box, at this point I am just seeing how long it plays out till I get pulled over for it.
 
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Yeah, you can do all of those things without an ID in the US. Schools usually issue their own photo IDs. Some jobs have more lax hiring requirements. Low income individuals in the US are most certainly not flying anywhere though. You can cash a check at the corner store without an ID in a a lot of places. You probably don't have a bank account if you fall into this category. Bars are tougher but if you build a rapport you can overcome it.

Yes, there are a ton of reasons why you should and would have an ID. My point is that we voting is a universal right, and that even though something seems obvious to us doesn't mean its obvious to everyone. Why create barriers where we don't need them? Voter fraud is practically non-existent without requiring IDs, so is it really worth it to deny the right to vote to a few million people because of the fear of something that doesn't exist?
You're kidding right? 99% of jobs nowadays (except for short term work like babysitting) require ID. Give an address for the mythical "corner store" that will cash a check without an ID. This may have been true 20 years ago, but is isn't today. What doesn't exist is the myth that people are denied their right to vote without an ID. There were NO cases of anyone being denied being able to vote in 2020. But there were documented cases of voter fraud. I sincerely hoped that this website would stay away from politics, but sadly it seems some folks won't allow that to happen.
 
There were NO cases of anyone being denied being able to vote in 2020. But there were documented cases of voter fraud. I sincerely hoped that this website would stay away from politics, but sadly it seems some folks won't allow that to happen.
Nobody said that, it was a conversation centered around new voting laws in Georgia that were enacted because legislators in the state believe an election was robbed from them, so they are trying to minimize the ability of people who vote against them to vote.

I really would have thought that people on this forum understood how easily you can get a job under the table at a restaurant or as a general laborer.

Also please do share your sources for the documented cases of voter fraud, I would love to check them out.
 
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