The future of Jeep?
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Oh boy - what's NOT wrong with this video? That might be 5KW of solar panels - you're wanting to recharge *how* many Jeeps at once and *how* quickly? And they forgot the most important "heritage" of all, regardless of propulsion: SIMPLICITY. 70% of their 2025 sales will be electric? Maybe, maybe not. They don't get to choose that, the market does.
The Jeep family community will be there until it’s no longer cool,
then they will all flock to the newest coolest minivan.
Hope by then I’ll be able to score a good deal on the Jeep my son wants
mojito green four door
then they will all flock to the newest coolest minivan.
Hope by then I’ll be able to score a good deal on the Jeep my son wants
mojito green four door
OP
I’ve found hilarious the off-road autonomous driving 
I’m any case I love my TJ even more!!!
I’m any case I love my TJ even more!!!
70% of zero. A diesel hybrid would be a hit. Uncouple the drive train and generate power with a diesel stuck at 3000 rpm. Store excess in batteries. Drop the huge 4 door.
The current Jeep EV has a range of 40 miles (overinflated manufacturer's number). Take out the motor and fill that space with batteries and I bet range is less than our old TJs. Especially if you run AC or heat or get on the highways with these unaerodynamic bricks. But we can fill back up in 5 minutes with a TJ.
If the world goes EV, they should only be small cars. Smart cars up to Corolla size.
And we still generate electricity by fossil fuels. Solar only works during the day wind only when it blows. So a house will need massive battery systems to store enough to charge cars at home.
My estimate is ~$7 Trillion for the grid upgrades. Houses will be even more priced out of the market. It's $50,000 to replace my current home electrical use 24hrs 365. Including a backup generator.
Triple that for 2 EV cars at home.
But the goal is to destroy single family home ownership, car ownership, property ownership, and force people into cities using public transportation. Homes, property, cars, and planes are for rich people and important government figures. Like most communist countries and the fiefdoms of old.
We can walk, pack into busses, and subways, or ride bikes.
Oh boy….once again fiction is being played out into reality. If you haven’t heard the song Red Barchetta by Rush, I highly recommend you do and listen to the lyrics.
Soon there really will be a “Motor Law”
Soon there really will be a “Motor Law”
I've been waiting DECADES now for a diesel-electric hybrid. Instead, we keep fooling around with gasoline-electric hybrids which make an inefficient gas engine into the approximation of a diesel. Diesel electric hybrid technology has been around since WW 2. Maybe its because such a setup doesn't need a bunch of computers and touchscreens to make it work, so nobody's interested?
Clearly targeting younger generations. Could've been less cringy.
I will say that PHEVs can be fantastic. My commuter is a chevy volt with 40-mile battery range, which is all I use in daily commuting but I can go on trips no problem with the gas motor.
Diesel-electric isn't magic. The thermodynamics of going diesel>electric>battery>electric>drive is way less efficient than diesel>mechanical transmission>drive.
Ever play with an electric R/C crawler? Driving a full-size one would be a blast!
I will say that PHEVs can be fantastic. My commuter is a chevy volt with 40-mile battery range, which is all I use in daily commuting but I can go on trips no problem with the gas motor.
Diesel-electric isn't magic. The thermodynamics of going diesel>electric>battery>electric>drive is way less efficient than diesel>mechanical transmission>drive.
Ever play with an electric R/C crawler? Driving a full-size one would be a blast!
Diesel-electric hybrids (DEH) have their place and are currently quite popular in industrial applications. In many instances, with modern fuels and DEF injection, DEH pollution would be far below most modern gas-engine hybrids (including direct-injection systems).
But, like anything, hybrids are a compromise. Unlike a large train, a DEH car would have a significant weight penalty in terms of absolute #s and from a % standpoint. Aside from the engine, you'd have the DEF system to deal with (to keep emissions comparable), fuel considerations that many folk may not be accustomed to (gelling issues), and other platform-related issues that are cost prohibitive (not that they can't be done, but it all comes down to what a consumer would pay for in enough instances to make it economically viable to MFG).
All true enough - yet we continue to pursue gas electric hybrids, which is completely nonsensical to me. If you're going to make a hybrid, might as well start with a diesel.