Are Metalcloak control arms any good?

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Silly me, I thought this was a drama free TJ forum.

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Elitism keeps rearing its head.

There's a hell of lot more MC joints and arms out there than you imagine. This is from the PM's and texts I get from various members thanking me for speaking up.

It's like you and your KREW have driven them underground with your constant bashing and hatred.

Of the folks I've wheeled with, not one of us gave two shits how any rig was built. We just enjoyed the great outdoors and a common hobby.
I'm not afraid of a little hate. What I have works well and others talk isn't going to change that. We're supposed to be adults, but if others can't be, let them bring the hate on. I'll still be able to sleep at night.
 
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I wonder if both my axles being aftermarket plays into why mine just plain work well. I've got as much or more flex than any other jeep I've wheeled with and my joints haven't shown any signs of failure.

This would be vs someone who has simply rotated axles for their lift.

Thinking about it more, having all the brackets corrected on the axle for any lift, has to improve performance.
Maybe @jjvw (Mr. Tech) can weigh in on this?
The stage is set its your time to shine buddy.
 
I'm not afraid of a little hate. What I have works well and others talk isn't going to change that. We're supposed to be adults, but if others can't be. Let them bring the hate on. I'll still be able to sleep at night.
I sleep well, time around the campfire with friends helps!
 
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I wonder if both my axles being aftermarket plays into why mine just plain work well. I've got as much or more flex than any other jeep I've wheeled with and my joints haven't shown any signs of failure.

This would be vs someone who has simply rotated axles for their lift.

Thinking about it more, having all the brackets corrected on the axle for any lift, has to improve performance.
So, all the axles were made wrong that have all the failed joints on them that we are around? Accurate assessment?
 
So, all the axles were made wrong that have all the failed joints on them that we are around? Accurate assessment?
No, I'm not sayin either. I'm just pointing out my experience. As I've said before I think the fact my jeep has always been garaged and never seen salt or winter probably has more to do with that longevity.
 
No, I'm not sayin either. I'm just pointing out my experience. As I've said before I think the fact my jeep has always been garaged and never seen salt or winter probably has more to do with that longevity.
How do you explain that the vast majority of our rigs don't see salt or wet winters and still kill the joints? Too much sunshine?
 
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Having the lockers helped too.
Outside of forgetting to disconnect the front factory swaybar or the onroad setting of a SwayLOC, the limitation of flex is 99.9% shock length since almost no rigs won't flex to the shock limits.

There are lots of ways to manipulate an RTI score so it is basically a useless metric.
 
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I haven't seen that many that kill joints. I know tworley mentioned his, he's in CO.
I keep relating this but once upon a time G and the folks at MC got into a pissing contest on FB. G kept telling them that what they were saying wasn't true and he didn't give a shit what his associates used as product on their personal rigs. They kept it up so he finally said fine, fuck it. Here are the pics I've collected of all of your failed joints on practically every rig that comes into the shop over the years. That didn't go well.
 
Outside of forgetting to disconnect the front factory swaybar or the onroad setting of a SwayLOC, the limitation of flex is 99.9% shock length since almost no rigs won't flex to the shock limits.

There are lots of ways to manipulate an RTI score so it is basically a useless metric.
But it is a metric,

And it still goes to the point, I've used every bit of my travel and my joints aren't failing and I'm trying to get to what's the difference between the failures and the non-failures.

Was trying to get it to be a more techy discussion.