2015 Z51 Corvette

[Tray Burge]

Hey guys, knowing we have a lot of knowledgeable car guys here I'm looking for some advice? This is my brothers car.
I have the opportunity to buy this 2015 Z51, with factory equipped Z06, 7 speed transmission from my brother. The car was kept in immaculate condition until a stroke knocked him for a good one. The body's in perfect condition and has never been in an accident.
The car runs perfectly fine, still immaculate on the inside and under the hood and tires are fine, his nephew comes over and drives him around in it sometimes to keep it moving. Brand new factory battery too with less than 50k miles on the car, he babied it until his stroke.
It was gorgeous when shiney and new looking. He wants me to buy it for a brotherly price to keep in the family, but I'm not sure what a "brotherly" price would be and he needs to come up with that price I told him.
What I do know is this car with this mileage and package in mint condition is bringing around $38k-$43k at Carmax, so definately lower person to person.
My question: As you can see the clear needs bad attention to correct or is it at a respray point? I think the paints okay(?) but probably wouldn't know until I started wet sanding on it to bring it back. I can do this, but can't respray if needed.
Your thoughts on bringing it back, is the clear too far gone, no peeling just the hazing you see. That's not dust or dirt, it's faded clear on the hood. The top, how hard is this to bring back? And, a fair price to offer, knowing it might need a possible respray?
I really value your feedback, thanks.
Tray

 

[BlueC]

Has GM had issues with paint or clear on these cars? That looks terrible for that new of a car, and it's very thin from the factory.

I'd value the car like this; typical market asking price for an average car minus a determined % to get an estimated actual sale price, unless you have access to actual sales data. Then I'd subtract estimated repair cost. For that particular car, I'd call around and get estimates to 1- repaint the whole car and 2- have the car professionally detailed/corrected. I'd get a few of each and just average the cost, then pull that amount out of the average sale price for those cars. If yall want to work in some discount beyond that, that's on yall, but that is how I’d value that car, or any other vehicle.

 

[BlueC]

Also, don't overlook pending maintenance issues and cost. If that car has been parked there like that for enough time to look like that, I'd assume the tires are shot and have to be replaced first thing, so there's an easy $1,500 off the bat.

 

[Mike_H]

it looks like its been sitting outside? I don't know that its going to be all there mechanically, either. To get that much paint damage and mold on the soft-top, it looks to have been sitting for at least a couple years? Its not past the point of saving it, but its not the minty fresh version you described in your post.

 

[Tray Burge]

it looks like its been sitting outside? I don't know that its going to be all there mechanically, either. To get that much paint damage and mold on the soft-top, it looks to have been sitting for at least a couple years? Its not past the point of saving it, but its not the minty fresh version you described in your post.

The only thing described minty fresh in my post is the interior, tires and under the hood. Yes, it's been exposed, but driven, for a few years now since his stroke.

 

[BlueC]

The only thing described minty fresh in my post is the interior, tires and under the hood. Yes, it's been exposed, but driven, for a few years now since his stroke.

I would expect the tires to be bad. For some reason, tires parked on dirt leach oils and dry rot. If they have any age beyond a year or two sitting like that, they’re an issue looking for a time to show up, most likely at speed. I have a car with a "new" set of tires on it, like they have less than 1,000 miles on 'em, but the car has been sitting in a shed for years, now my like-new-tread tires won't even hold air beyond a day or two. I've driven other like-new old tires that let loose on the road. My point is, just because they have few miles on 'em and look ok, doesn't mean they are.

 

[DuckNut]

I have quite a few of these "style/types" of go fast cars.

If I was in the market for this vehicle, I would pass and keep looking.

The bonnet needs replacing. It is not the clear, but the car needs repainting. There is a tremendous amount of unknown and possibly rust under it. And heaven forbid, rodents were to have taken up residency under the hood. Many companies used wires with insulation made from corn byproducts and if the rodents didn't find them, they would crack.

If I am trying to help my brother out I would list it gor him and after it sold I would add 5k to the price and give it to him.

 

[BlueC]

And heaven forbid, rodents were to have taken up residency

Yeah, that can be a major issue. I had mice get into one of my project cars and do significant damage. In just 5 years, I lost a trunk pan + whatever wiring they damaged.

 

[Tray Burge]

Yeah, that can be a major issue. I had mice get into one of my project cars and do significant damage. In just 5 years, I lost a trunk pan + whatever wiring they damaged.

Nope, no rodent damage luckily and or rust. I've seen tops this bad before brought back, so I'm not concerned about that. It may very well need a respray if a color correction can't fix it.

 

[BlueC]

It may very well need a respray if a color correction can't fix it.

If so, and looking at the pic I think the top side will dictate it, that will get pricey and most likely be a total repaint. Since it's your brother and yall obviously have a good relationship, go get the car tagged and drive it for a while. Then you'll see what's wrong, if anything, and if you want to proceed with the car or help him sell it.

 

[cliffish]

I would expect the tires to be bad. For some reason, tires parked on dirt leach oils and dry rot. If they have any age beyond a year or two sitting like that, they’re an issue looking for a time to show up, most likely at speed. I have a car with a "new" set of tires on it, like they have less than 1,000 miles on 'em, but the car has been sitting in a shed for years, now my like-new-tread tires won't even hold air beyond a day or two. I've driven other like-new old tires that let loose on the road. My point is, just because they have few miles on 'em and look ok, doesn't mean they are.

Like this? This is a 30 year old tire with about 3,000 miles on them from my 81 corvette. Luckily it did not happen when driving.

 

[BlueC]

Like this? This is a 30 year old tire with about 3,000 miles on them from my 81 corvette. Luckily it did not happen when driving.
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Yep, something like that. I had a decent looking, low mileage set (not the same set mentioned above) on a car that had been sitting dormant in a garage for the previous 10 years before I got the car out and started getting in back on the road. I started on a relatively short trip that would have been about 5 miles in total when about 1/2 way things got funny. I pulled over and found one of my front tires had bulged badly in the tread, so I turned back and drove slowly home. Probably 1/2 mile after that, two other tires did the same. It was like driving on basket balls. I got home and an hour or two later the final tire bulged, and they all let loose that night. Luckily, the blow outs occurred while sitting in my garage and did no damage.

These are the tires still mounted in my scrap pile. IIRC the tires are date coded mid-late 90s, which would have made them 15–20 years old when the above occurred.

 

[Woodrow]

Hey guys, knowing we have a lot of knowledgeable car guys here I'm looking for some advice? This is my brothers car.
I have the opportunity to buy this 2015 Z51, with factory equipped Z06, 7 speed transmission from my brother. The car was kept in immaculate condition until a stroke knocked him for a good one. The body's in perfect condition and has never been in an accident.
The car runs perfectly fine, still immaculate on the inside and under the hood and tires are fine, his nephew comes over and drives him around in it sometimes to keep it moving. Brand new factory battery too with less than 50k miles on the car, he babied it until his stroke.
It was gorgeous when shiney and new looking. He wants me to buy it for a brotherly price to keep in the family, but I'm not sure what a "brotherly" price would be and he needs to come up with that price I told him.
What I do know is this car with this mileage and package in mint condition is bringing around $38k-$43k at Carmax, so definately lower person to person.
My question: As you can see the clear needs bad attention to correct or is it at a respray point? I think the paints okay(?) but probably wouldn't know until I started wet sanding on it to bring it back. I can do this, but can't respray if needed.
Your thoughts on bringing it back, is the clear too far gone, no peeling just the hazing you see. That's not dust or dirt, it's faded clear on the hood. The top, how hard is this to bring back? And, a fair price to offer, knowing it might need a possible respray?
I really value your feedback, thanks.
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I looked at Edmunds and they said $44k which I thought was high. But it's a cool car. I assume it needs tires, belts, hoses and all new fluids. IF a good detail would make it look good from 20 ft, the wiring is good and it runs and drives well, I'd personally give $30-35K if I was looking for a fun summer ride.

 

[1o1proof]

I looked at Edmunds and they said $44k which I thought was high. But it's a cool car. I assume it needs tires, belts, hoses and all new fluids. IF a good detail would make it look good from 20 ft, the wiring is good and it runs and drives well, I'd personally give $30-35K if I was looking for a fun summer ride.

This is where I am with it. If you want the car, it seems like you could have a good driver for a reasonable amount of cash. I say if you want it because, IMO keeping a car in the family you don’t care for is an exercise in futility. I kept a car my dad left me for several years, never liked the car…but it was dads. Was surprised at how happy I was to see it go to a person who cared for it.

 

[Tray Burge]

This is where I am with it. If you want the car, it seems like you could have a good driver for a reasonable amount of cash. I say if you want it because, IMO keeping a car in the family you don’t care for is an exercise in futility. I kept a car my dad left me for several years, never liked the car…but it was dads. Was surprised at how happy I was to see it go to a person who cared for it.

I'm more like $20-25k given it may need $15k worth of paint and new top work?
I talked to him again and my brother want's a "gazillion" dollars for it, but that ain't gonna happen- he's a fool thinking it's even close to $40k~

 

[BlueC]

he's a fool thinking it's even close to $40k~

Is that what he's expecting? Has he actually seen the car recently? I'd help him wash it off and get it listed for sale and see who bites.

 

[cliffish]

Is that what he's expecting? Has he actually seen the car recently? I'd help him wash it off and get it listed for sale and see who bites.

Wash it and consult with a detailer on what they think they can do and at what cost.

 

[Tray Burge]

Yeah, but he's the type that'll just let it sit there and rot before taking what it's actually worth because he's that stubburn.
Everyone that's seen these pictures concures it probably gonna need a new top and paint, that's $20k at least.
One in mint condition like his are going for around $40k.

 

[BlueC]

he's the type that'll just let it sit there and rot before taking what it's actually worth because he's that stubburn.

I've seen people like that kill many nice vehicles and houses over the years. It's sad, but out of my control. Someone should at least suggest he put it in a garage or shed, so whom ever inherits it when he dies will at least have something more than scrap to deal with.