That's the equivalent of expecting Warn to warranty a winch that was snatched against. Regardless, the WLL for any scenario is still bullshit. If it even more bullshit if we don't know the safety factor that the WLL is derived from.
$8.50 recovery rings
- Thread starter macleanflood
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Not the deal that the $8 rings are, but could this be a reasonable priced alternative to the Factor 55 ring?
https://www.amazon.com/Retention-Pulley-33000lbs-Recovery-Shackle/dp/B0CZMF1QN1/?tag=wranglerorg-20
Or to a slightly lessor degree, even this:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DG2CCR6B/?tag=wranglerorg-20
Do you think those silicone ticklers are stiff enough to do what they claim to do without also tearing up the rope?
Dunno. All speculation until someone pushes a penguin off the cliff into the water below to see if they get eaten by a polar bear.
Something tells me synthetic winch line is tougher than silicon.
-Mac
Which brings us right back to the question of wether or not these ticklers actually do anything. Can you offer any critical thoughts or do we just accept everything at face value?
Good questions. I don't know.
I guess the only way to tell for sure would be to test these two along with a Factor 55 ring and see what they all do. Too rich for my blood though.
I'll stick with my old TRE aluminum pulley. It works better than these rings do. And I won't buy anything from Factor 55.
Totally agree...but not all of have the luxury of spending $100+ on a piece of recovery gear that most of us won't use until you really need it.
I'd love to find cheap affordable stuff, that while perhaps not robust enough for say day to day professional towing, is good enough to throw in a recovery bag for those oh shit moments.
Guess I need to order a couple and see if they work.
Again...big fan of rings...after cooking a couple or three winch motors rings do two simple things...one...they make you run more rope off the line thus increasing the power of your pull getting you down to that first, or second rope layer...and two...they double the pulling power (or whatever multiplier times rings used.)
That and for occasions when pulling heavier vehicles you can run the pulleys anchored off a tree or rock, or redirect winch lines. All useful things.
-Mac
My argument is that I have done enough rigging to recognize the dangers of vehicle recovery; which then necessitates that my recovery gear be safe, reliable, and have as few gimmicks as I can recognize. A rope pulley without a bearing is a gimmick. And I have used these rings enough to be irritated by them flopping around during setup. Silicone fingers are not enough to fix that.
iirc they net 1.6x, not counting the benefits from pulling more line.
In addition to better leverage, there are advantages to keeping the motor turning faster. Motors are typically less efficient (produce more heat) and produce less torque at very low rpm.
Recovery ring. I want to say a good snatch block is around 1.8, so around 1/2 the friction loss.
Is this the pulley you are talking about (or at least something similar)?
https://www.tacticalrecoveryequipment.com/product-category/snatch-blocks/
That is the one and only. And it may not be available these days.
@NashvilleTJ bought one not too long ago so they figured out how to produce them. They will likely be in stock again.
I just wanted the cool case. I threw the snatch block in the trash...
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