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Are these Rough Country control arms any good or should I steer clear of them?

Rough country is definitely a low tier cheaper brand. I wouldn't use them but I guess it depends what you do.
 
i wheel on vancouver island, medium to hard trails and sometimes drive to work in it. dont really have a budget, im just cheap.

I try not to cheap out on parts that would be dangerous if they fail, probably a lot of sets of these out there that haven't failed but that's my perspective.

You'd probably benefit from something with better bushings/joints if you're doing harder trails too.
 
Do you like to purchase things twice?

NO. lol. i want to go clayton but im just unsure if the price is worth it. i wheeled a clayton long arm 3link front 4 link rear tj and that thing was like a spider...nothing stopped it. so smooth but i do no want long arm, id be getting short arms from them.
 
I try not to cheap out on parts that would be dangerous if they fail, probably a lot of sets of these out there that haven't failed but that's my perspective.

You'd probably benefit from something with better bushings/joints if you're doing harder trails too.

like i said above my original plan was clayton....just not sure if it will be as good as it was on my buddies long arm jeep. (i know the reasons not to go long arm so i wont)
 
I have them and don't have any complaints on them (well 1, see later sentence). I drive my TJ most everyday and wheel on some medium trails. I've not had any issues with them. I do wish they were double threaded ends so you didn't have to remove an end to adjust the length of them.
 
I’ve had both - the RC bushings fail fast, and the single adjustable is a huge pain to dial
In-

At the same time I understand wanting to save money for other things and not to get too deep in-

If you’re going to keep the jeep long-term I would spend more money on the arms and even go with a cheaper winch or something
 
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I’ve had both - the RC bushings fail fast, and the single adjustable is a huge pain to dial
In-

At the same time I understand wanting to save money for other things and not to get too deep in-

If you’re going to keep the jeep long-term I would spend more money on the arms and even go with a cheaper winch or something

good idea. i will spring for clayton arms.

i had a warn 9.5cti on my aev jku350 but i had issues with the free spool on it. do they still make this one or is there a better replacement for it?
 
I have them and don't have any complaints on them (well 1, see later sentence). I drive my TJ most everyday and wheel on some medium trails. I've not had any issues with them. I do wish they were double threaded ends so you didn't have to remove an end to adjust the length of them.

i didnt realize they were single adjustable. ill stick to clayton thanks for the heads up.
 
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I have a couple of them left on my rig. The flex joints were sloppy after 15k miles and I replaced them with Johnny Joints. The rubber bushings were still ok, but I replaced them with Synergy DDB's for more flexibility, which is impossible without a press and I had to pay a shop to do it.

In the end I could have spent 2x on nicer arms to start with.
 
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I have a couple of them left on my rig. The flex joints were sloppy after 15k miles and I replaced them with Johnny Joints. The rubber bushings were still ok, but I replaced them with Synergy DDB's for more flexibility, which is impossible without a press and I had to pay a shop to do it.

In the end I could have spent 2x on nicer arms to start with.

thankfully i am a parts advisor for a mercedes dealership so have access to a complete shop and press
 
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I have a couple of them left on my rig. The flex joints were sloppy after 15k miles and I replaced them with Johnny Joints. The rubber bushings were still ok, but I replaced them with Synergy DDB's for more flexibility, which is impossible without a press and I had to pay a shop to do it.

In the end I could have spent 2x on nicer arms to start with.

-This -

Essentially I went through the same thing-

Suffered with noises and weird performance and fear of failure-

My Clayton Rig and my Savvy Rig are silent assassins

The TJ wrangler is the first jeep in history to be built around the design of Control Arms
And Coil Springs-

Putting in bargain control arms is like getting a pacemaker at Big Lots.

You are working on the heart of the vehicle and everything hinges around the stability and geometry of the axles.
 
-This -

Essentially I went through the same thing-

Suffered with noises and weird performance and fear of failure-

My Clayton Rig and my Savvy Rig are silent assassins

The TJ wrangler is the first jeep in history to be built around the design of Control Arms
And Coil Springs-

Putting in bargain control arms is like getting a pacemaker at Big Lots.

You are working on the heart of the vehicle and everything hinges around the stability and geometry of the axles.

ok with that said, im gonna go clayton short arm. which kit would you reccomend?
 
i wheel on vancouver island, medium to hard trails and sometimes drive to work in it. dont really have a budget, im just cheap.

When I 1st started wheeling in my Jeep I was also cheap. Purchased the RC control arms. I wheel pretty hard. All the bushing sleeves moved out of the arms and they started rubbing the control arm on one side and the bushing sleeves on the other.
I removed them, pressed the bushings back in and sold them. I have to purchase a second set from another source with Johnny joints. No failure since.
 
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When I 1st started wheeling in my Jeep I was also cheap. Purchased the RC control arms. I wheel pretty hard. All the bushing sleeves moved out of the arms and they started rubbing the control arm on one side and the bushing sleeves on the other.
I removed them, pressed the bushings back in and sold them. I have to purchase a second set from another source with Johnny joints. No failure since.

im really glad i asked this lol.

tons of good info here.

thanks all!!
 
When I 1st started wheeling in my Jeep I was also cheap. Purchased the RC control arms. I wheel pretty hard. All the bushing sleeves moved out of the arms and they started rubbing the control arm on one side and the bushing sleeves on the other.
I removed them, pressed the bushings back in and sold them. I have to purchase a second set from another source with Johnny joints. No failure since.

I had a similar experience with many cheap parts at first.

You find out quickly that you can't do the things you do in a jeep on cheap parts and expect them to last anywhere near as long as cheap stuff you can put on a smaller daily driving sedan
 
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I would imagine the big issue for you is shipping. This place used to be out of California but I think they moved out east. I have ran this for 2 years without a failure. They are heavy, but the bushing seems to stay in place and it has a real Johnny joint. At least they did.
Reach out and maybe you can find reasonable shipping and you can add them as a possibility in your list of options. No they are not cream of the crop, but they do hold up for the price point.

Trail Forged
 
I would imagine the big issue for you is shipping. This place used to be out of California but I think they moved out east. I have ran this for 2 years without a failure. They are heavy, but the bushing seems to stay in place and it has a real Johnny joint. At least they did.
Reach out and maybe you can find reasonable shipping and you can add them as a possibility in your list of options. No they are not cream of the crop, but they do hold up for the price point.

Trail Forged

thank you! ill check it out.

shipping and price due to exchange rate (my money is apparently worthless lol) that kills me
 
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