I am going to put the battery from My TJ into the Cherokee. Are there any good recommendations on a good quality battery for TJ it will get the new one! I was thinking on an Optima yellow top?
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I am going to put the battery from My TJ into the Cherokee. Are there any good recommendations on a good quality battery for TJ it will get the new one! I was thinking on an Optima yellow top?
Thanks
Same here, hopefully someone knowsI also like Optima batteries, but I seem to stay confused about which top is best for most vehicles, red, yellow or blue. I know that one of them is a deep cycle battery for use in boats & RVs. I just can’t remember which one. ‘Should be easy enough to find out. Heck. Somebody will probably tell me right here in the next few minutes.
Mr. Bills said:
A quick Google search revealed this:
"East Penn makes a lot of conventional, calcium AGM batteries. At Auto Zone, the DuraLast Platinum is a calcium AGM, while the DuraLast Gold is a flooded, maintenance-free battery. At NAPA, the Legend is a calcium AGM. At O’Reilly, the Super Start Platinum is a calcium AGM."
The article from which the text is quoted has a great discussion of the different types of AGM batteries and their application to police vehicle use. It also explains the differences between "thick plate calcium AGM batteries" such as the offerings by East Penn, and "thin plate pure lead AGM's" which include Northstar, Odyssey and Optima. The article concludes:
"Both the calcium AGM and the pure lead AGM crank longer and are more tolerant of deep cycle drains than OE maintenance-free batteries. That said, there is a performance difference among these two types of AGM battery. Since the thinner plates in the pure lead AGM have more surface area contact than the thicker plates in the calcium AGM, they are more efficient during both discharging and recharging. The calcium AGM is 'better' while the pure lead AGM is 'best.'"
See: http://www.hendonpub.com/law_and_order/articles/2015/04/agm_battery_technology
It appears from the article that in the hierarchy of AGM's the Napa Legend is better than a flooded lead acid battery but not in the same category as a pure lead AGM battery such as Northstar, Odyssey and Optima. It also explains the substantial price difference between the East Penn offerings and those of the other AGM manufacturers.
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I recently just put a Napa AGM in my TJ. So far I’m very happy with it. I already have a trip to Rausch Creek under my belt with it and the AGM is nice peace of mind.There are better alternatives than an Optima for an AGM battery, many of which are not nearly as expensive as Odyssey/Northstar.
The AGM batteries manufactured by East Penn are good choices.
See this post in another AGM battery thread:
https://wranglertjforum.com/threads/napa-agm-battery-on-sale.18636/#post-302171
For a standard flooded lead acid battery it is hard to beat the Costco Interstate.
I'm not particularly a fan of Optima batteries as they have become failure prone over the last few years. They used to have a no question asked 5 year warranty but I think it's just 3 year pro-rated now. (Speaking as a former warehouse distributor employee who used to sell them everyday.)Same here, hopefully someone knows
Deep cycle batteries are for vehicles that sit long enough between uses so the batteries tend to discharge, like on boats. Deep cycle batteries are less damaged by those deep (cycle) discharges. They're not made for high current need like a traditional SLI (starting/lights/ignition) batteries are. For a typical Jeep you want a traditional SLI type of battery, which is especially the right choice if you have a winch. If your Jeep tends to sit a lot between uses, as mine unfortunately is now, keep a battery maintainer/tender connected to it.I also like Optima batteries, but I seem to stay confused about which top is best for most vehicles, red, yellow or blue. I know that one of them is a deep cycle battery for use in boats & RVs. I just can’t remember which one. ‘Should be easy enough to find out. Heck. Somebody will probably tell me right here in the next few minutes.
I'm not particularly a fan of Optima batteries as they have become failure prone over the last few years. They used to have a no question asked 5 year warranty but I think it's just 3 year pro-rated now. (Speaking as a former warehouse distributor employee who used to sell them everyday.)
Regarding top case colors and usage:
Red - everyday starting battery
Yellow- deep cycle battery
Blue - marine battery
Actually, deep cycle batteries are not designed for high ampere draw devices like winches. They're just designed to not be damaged as easily by deep discharges. I'm no fan of Optima, obviously, but even Optima used to have a flag warning that the warranty of a Yellow Top or Blue Top deep cycle battery would be voided if it was discovered that a winch was connected to it. They made a point that if you had a winch that they only recommended their Red Top SLI type battery.I had an optima yellowtop for like 9 years in another vehicle and it was great. Despite being a deep cycle, it could crank the starter just as fast as any other battery. Deep cycle batteries are a good idea if you have high draw equipment like compressors and winches. Starter batteries are easily damaged if you draw too much power before recharging again.
@Chris this should be a sticky.There are better alternatives than an Optima for an AGM battery, many of which are not nearly as expensive as Odyssey/Northstar.
My take on batteries for a Jeep TJ/LJ:
Top of the Line Pure Lead AGM: Pure lead AGM batteries such as Odyssey and Northstar. Rugged, high performance, high quality batteries but at a high price. Not for everyone, but not everyone needs one.
Mid Level Calcium AGM: Calcium AGM offerings by East Penn such as the O'Reilly's SuperStart AGM, NAPA Legend AGM and Duralast Platinum AGM store brands are highly rated and probably suitable for 90% of TJ/LJ owners looking for an AGM battery. My recollection is that the Duracell AGM battery also falls into this category.
Conventional Flooded Lead Acid: I have used Interstate batteries from Costco for years with great success. The Costco Interstates are identical to the Interstate batteries at the Interstate Store but with a better "no questions asked" 42-month full replacement warranty and a lower purchase price.
Optimas: Not on my list because people are flogged mercilessly on this forum for even suggesting that an Optima may have positive attributes. I haven't owned an Optima battery for 20 years or more so I have no current information
From a February 12, 2019 post in a similar thread regarding AGM batteries:
I am currently running a Costco Interstate (Costco item # 850241) conventional lead acid battery. It starts my jeep on the first crank every time, illuminates all of my lights, and keeps up with my Warn M8000-S winch. What's not to like? However, my next battery purchase will probably be one of the mid-priced calcium AGM's from East Penn if for no other reason than an AGM will eliminate any risk of damage from battery acid in the event of a tip- or roll-over.
Happy battery shopping.
I don't flog the folks who own and run Optima, I will however mercilessly berate Optima for their bullshit batteries.There are better alternatives than an Optima for an AGM battery, many of which are not nearly as expensive as Odyssey/Northstar.
My take on batteries for a Jeep TJ/LJ:
Top of the Line Pure Lead AGM: Pure lead AGM batteries such as Odyssey and Northstar. Rugged, high performance, high quality batteries but at a high price. Not for everyone, but not everyone needs one.
Mid Level Calcium AGM: Calcium AGM offerings by East Penn such as the O'Reilly's SuperStart AGM, NAPA Legend AGM and Duralast Platinum AGM store brands are highly rated and probably suitable for 90% of TJ/LJ owners looking for an AGM battery. My recollection is that the Duracell AGM battery also falls into this category.
Conventional Flooded Lead Acid: I have used Interstate batteries from Costco for years with great success. The Costco Interstates are identical to the Interstate batteries at the Interstate Store but with a better "no questions asked" 42-month full replacement warranty and a lower purchase price.
Optimas: Not on my list because people are flogged mercilessly on this forum for even suggesting that an Optima may have positive attributes. I haven't owned an Optima battery for 20 years or more so I have no current information
From a February 12, 2019 post in a similar thread regarding AGM batteries:
I am currently running a Costco Interstate (Costco item # 850241) conventional lead acid battery. It starts my jeep on the first crank every time, illuminates all of my lights, and keeps up with my Warn M8000-S winch. What's not to like? However, my next battery purchase will probably be one of the mid-priced calcium AGM's from East Penn if for no other reason than an AGM will eliminate any risk of damage from battery acid in the event of a tip- or roll-over.
Happy battery shopping.
Is it because they are the higher trim level Mercedes batteries?The only downfall of AMG batteries is the must have the proper charger and charging rate or they can be destroyed.