BLM closing around 1/3rd of the trail miles near Moab

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From the BlueRibbon Coalition:

Moab update for our @followers:

We received word that the Department of Interior appeals board denied the petition to stay the trail closures in Moab. They also denied the petition to stay from the State of Utah. This means the trails are now officially closed, and we encourage everyone to no longer use closed trails. This doesn’t mean the fight is over.

Our appeal is still pending, and there is still a lot of work ahead. If we prevail in our appeal, the BLM will be required to reopen the closed routes. We will keep you updated on the progress of the appeal.

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From the BlueRibbon Coalition:

Moab update for our @followers:

We received word that the Department of Interior appeals board denied the petition to stay the trail closures in Moab. They also denied the petition to stay from the State of Utah. This means the trails are now officially closed, and we encourage everyone to no longer use closed trails. This doesn’t mean the fight is over.

Our appeal is still pending, and there is still a lot of work ahead. If we prevail in our appeal, the BLM will be required to reopen the closed routes. We will keep you updated on the progress of the appeal.

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Just once (and maybe again once I saw it) I'd like to see a state really buck up to the feds, like send in their own personnel to open any gates and remove any closed signs, and post state law enforcement to stop BLM personnel from preventing access.

I realize there are legal considerations that I don't know the ins and outs of, and maybe the legal basis isn't there for this particular occasion but the feds overstep on a daily basis so there should be no shortage of opportunities.

What sucks is they have all the states on the dole so doing something like that carries the risk of losing funding on something completely unrelated as a retaliation.
 
Just once (and maybe again once I saw it) I'd like to see a state really buck up to the feds, like send in their own personnel to open any gates and remove any closed signs, and post state law enforcement to stop BLM personnel from preventing access.

I realize there are legal considerations that I don't know the ins and outs of, and maybe the legal basis isn't there for this particular occasion but the feds overstep on a daily basis so there should be no shortage of opportunities.

What sucks is they have all the states on the dole so doing something like that carries the risk of losing funding on something completely unrelated as a retaliation.

Art1 Sec8 and the 10th amendment.
 
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I posted it so others would watch it and let me know.

I got to the point where the stays were denied.

Have you been told you're worthless lately??

You can waste your time watching Tox videos & carpet bomb the meme thread but you can't watch this video?
 
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Just once (and maybe again once I saw it) I'd like to see a state really buck up to the feds, like send in their own personnel to open any gates and remove any closed signs, and post state law enforcement to stop BLM personnel from preventing access.

I realize there are legal considerations that I don't know the ins and outs of, and maybe the legal basis isn't there for this particular occasion but the feds overstep on a daily basis so there should be no shortage of opportunities.

What sucks is they have all the states on the dole so doing something like that carries the risk of losing funding on something completely unrelated as a retaliation.

Unfortunately, the way property rights work, if states opened gates to federal lands, and those gates were on federal land, the people opening the gates could be prosecuted for trespassing on a personal, not work-related basis. What governmental employee is going to take that risk? That is the reason why I've been against BHA (Backcountry Hunters and Anglers) push to keep federal lands federal. The feds don't act in the best interest of the land users. They work in the best interest of whoever has the best lawyers. Currently, that is the environmentalists who want no humans to enjoy use of the lands.

If the lands were given to the states, they'd be able to open those gates without being personally cited for trespassing. They would be acting in a professional capacity. The BHA oppose turning it over to the states because they are afraid the states will sell the land to raise money. This fear may be real, but it assumes that the federal government won't sell the land. Many state governments run on balanced budgets (they can have a deficit every year that accumulates). They don't have creditors that will eventually stop lending and demand payment. In contrast, the federal government runs a huge, ever-increasing deficit, with China one of the big note-holders. What do you think will eventually happen if they continue to spend at record levels? Assets will be sold to pay the creditors (or a war will happen to avoid that - neither is good.) What are the easiest assets to sell to efficiently raise billions of dollars? Land, lots of land, wide-open, country land (credit to Cole Porter)...
 
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