Novak Conversions Jeep Wrangler TJ radiator

Brassworks heater core

I think a restrictor would work if the coolant flow was on/off via a thermostat, but I think the coolant flow is just continuous on the heater core. What in your estimation is the cause of the reduced output of the BrassWorks? They gladly list all of the technically superior specs, yet the units make less heat. Somewhere, the heat transfer is not occurring.

I initially wondered if the fin was in direct physical contact with the tubes, because if the solder/braze filler was bridging a gap that would be bad...filler materials are crappy heat conductors compared to copper and aluminum. BW assured me that was not the case.

The next big question mark is a surface area issue. Their flat tubes are unique, and all else being equal a flattened tube should be superior to a round one of similar circumference due to improved turbulence, but I don't know that they're using enough of them. I'd love to get my hands on one and take some measurements.

Their FPI now that they've upped it to 20 (from the original 11 to 15, and up again) is at least closer to the competition (which are generally in the mid 20s). Until I get a chance to actually measure their tubes and see how many of them there are, I can't eliminate that as a possibility. But I also don't know of anyone on the forum that has used an updated one so the issue may already be fixed.

So what is the purpose of the turbulators they put in the coils? Exposes the coolant to the outside edge of the tubes? Slows the flow down? I’ve been in this discussion before on here and it’s still not clear in my head how slowing the flow doesn’t increase the temp exchange.

They increase turbulence if the flow isn't already fast enough to achieve it. If the velocity is slow enough to be in laminar or early transitional flow you need the turbulators to make sure all of the fluid gets a chance to touch the inside of the tube. If the tube is flat like brassworks, they aren't needed (and not really possible, anyway). This is an example of how slowing down the flow is counterproductive to the heat exchanger performance, not helpful.

In my beer making days I was able to remove more heat from the wort by slowing the flow through the tubes. Engineering I’m no good at understanding, but experience tells me different.

you were putting the BTUs into a smaller mass.

Q = m * Cp * dT

Q is the heat energy transferred in BTU or Joules
m is the mass
Cp is the specific heat capacity of the substance - how many BTU does it take to heat 1 pound by 1F degree
dT - the temperature change of the fluid.
This can be done for a fixed volume or you can add a time element by turning m into mass flow rate and Q into energy per unit time, aka power. (BTU/hr or Joules/second which is Watts)

By slowing down the flow, you reduced your m, and your dT went up. Your Q actually went down, because the mean temp difference between the hot side and cold side shrank due to the increase at the wort output. That temperature difference is a direct input to the math used to predict the performance of a given heat exchanger.
 
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So what is the purpose of the turbulators they put in the coils? Exposes the coolant to the outside edge of the tubes? Slows the flow down? I’ve been in this discussion before on here and it’s still not clear in my head how slowing the flow doesn’t increase the temp exchange.
In my beer making days I was able to remove more heat from the wort by slowing the flow through the tubes. Engineering I’m no good at understanding, but experience tells me different.

I've been thinking about this, and slowing the flow down on a fixed volume of fluid with a specific value of BTU would work in theory, if it was already flowing too fast. The heater core is fed by a continuous flow of 195f water, so regardless of flow rate, the core in theory should always be at 195f degrees, but reaches the temperate at a different rate depending on thermal efficiency. So this must mean the BW has some problem with transferring that heat energy to the air passing through it.
 
While I don't know the specifics of the aluminum used in an OEM core or the brass this company is using, but doesn't aluminum have a higher thermal conductivity than brass?
 
Thoughts on the redesigned BrassWorks core?

Sorry it’s still sitting in a box. It’s been months since I’ve worked on the Jeep. I need to do it soon though because it’s getting cold and driving in the cold early morning is sketchy without a defroster.
 
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Sorry it’s still sitting in a box. It’s been months since I’ve worked on the Jeep. I need to do it soon though because it’s getting cold and driving in the cold early morning is sketchy without a defroster.

Hi - curious if you came to a decision on the brassworks core...I have my Jeep part way disassembled and have a cheap aluminum core that I am trying to decide on installing or pay much more $$ for the brassworks core. Goal is to never to this repair again...
 
Hi - curious if you came to a decision on the brassworks core...I have my Jeep part way disassembled and have a cheap aluminum core that I am trying to decide on installing or pay much more $$ for the brassworks core. Goal is to never to this repair again...

I just bought a brassworks core. Don’t have it installed yet, but I will in the next month or so. Arrived faster than predicted, four weeks instead of eight. I will try to post here with results.
 
I just bought a brassworks core. Don’t have it installed yet, but I will in the next month or so. Arrived faster than predicted, four weeks instead of eight. I will try to post here with results.

Same… new brassworks core in a box waiting to install… I’ll be replacing the original brassworks that produced poor heat and eventually leaked.
 
Marklar1983 and Ericshere03:

Did either of you get the new three-row version announced by Brassworks yesterday?


I'm anxiously waiting for great reports on either of the offerings from them! It's nice when a company, especially an American company, steps up and tries to make something for the TJ that is up to OEM performance. I'm hoping they succeed!
 
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Marklar1983 and Ericshere03:

Did either of you get the new three-row version announced by Brassworks yesterday?


I'm anxiously waiting for great reports on either of the offerings from them! It's nice when a company, especially an American company, steps up and tries to make something for the TJ that is up to OEM performance. I'm hoping they succeed!

NO! I just got my order last week, this sucker is way fatter than what I have …
 
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