Clutch Interlock Switch Bypass

We didn't have that crap when I was growing up - you knew to either step on the clutch or put the thing in neutral.
It’s a whole different world out there now.
I oversaw loading 200 vehicle onto a ship on Friday going to Hawaii. I think 2 or 3 out of 30 drivers could drive a stick. One could not back a newer mustang up I had to show him to pull up on the reverse lockout.
 
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My mom taught me how to drive with a manual transmission. Lesson one was always wiggle the stick to make sure it is not in gear. And the lesson stuck, I always check.
 
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It’s a whole different world out there now.
I oversaw loading 200 vehicle onto a ship on Friday going to Hawaii. I think 2 or 3 out of 30 drivers could drive a stick. One could not back a newer mustang up I had to show him to pull up on the reverse lockout.
It's only a whole different world out there now because the lawyers convinced the manufacturers to install that stupid clutch interlock switch. We didn't have them until probably the eighties, maybe the mid-seventies. Everyone knew the clutch had to be down or the transmission had to be in Neutral before then.

The lawyers are dumbing down the world. Do we really need warnings not to drink bleach or that the coffee in the cup served at McDonalds is hot?
 
It's only a whole different world out there now because the lawyers convinced the manufacturers to install that stupid clutch interlock switch. We didn't have them until probably the eighties, maybe the mid-seventies. Everyone knew the clutch had to be down or the transmission had to be in Neutral before then.

The lawyers are dumbing down the world. Do we really need warnings not to drink bleach or that the coffee in the cup served at McDonalds is hot?
Most people these days (younger generations) can’t drive a stick. It amazes me, but the cell phone and cup holder a long with advances in auto transmissions eliminated the manual transmission. I always wonder the stories behind the warnings on certain products. These warnings and changes are usually in response to an injury or accident. Most of the vehicles where I now are wired to shut off when the driver door is opened. This change occurred after someone was killed by being run over after getting out of a vehicle while running. We have speed limiters the trucks also due to similar incidents.
 
Most people these days (younger generations) can’t drive a stick. It amazes me, but the cell phone and cup holder a long with advances in auto transmissions eliminated the manual transmission. I always wonder the stories behind the warnings on certain products. These warnings and changes are usually in response to an injury or accident. Most of the vehicles where I now are wired to shut off when the driver door is opened. This change occurred after someone was killed by being run over after getting out of a vehicle while running. We have speed limiters the trucks also due to similar incidents.

My 19 year old Son wanted to learn to drive a stick and he makes sure to drive the LJ everytime he's home from college to keep up with it. I've never heard of a vehicle that shuts the engine down with drivers door open. I'm pretty sure I would never buy one that I did not know exactly how to change that before hand.
 
My 19 year old Son wanted to learn to drive a stick and he makes sure to drive the LJ everytime he's home from college to keep up with it. I've never heard of a vehicle that shuts the engine down with drivers door open. I'm pretty sure I would never buy one that I did not know exactly how to change that before hand.

This is a mod installed for safety. Sort of like a seat switch on a forklift where you have to be seated for it to run. I work down on the waterfront moving cargo mostly containers. It is a fast paced environment with lots of equipment and trucks moving in all directions at once. This change happened after someone climbed out of a vehicle to verify something and it wasn’t all the way in park. He was killed when the vehicle ran him over.
 
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Most people these days (younger generations) can’t drive a stick. It amazes me, but the cell phone and cup holder a long with advances in auto transmissions eliminated the manual transmission. I always wonder the stories behind the warnings on certain products. These warnings and changes are usually in response to an injury or accident. Most of the vehicles where I now are wired to shut off when the driver door is opened. This change occurred after someone was killed by being run over after getting out of a vehicle while running. We have speed limiters the trucks also due to similar incidents.
https://www.drazinandwarshaw.com/bl..., a 27-year,involving his Jeep Grand Cherokee.
 
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Tragic accident, I have learned to remove my foot off the brake before I open the door. I think what happens people open the door step out then remove their foot from the brake by then it’s too late. We ran black bear pass earlier this year and I made that suggestion to everyone before we started the day. I’m sure everyone has seen the video of he Jeep rolling down. Later that day on another trail one guy got out and his Jeep started rolling, I alerted him he got it stopped. I had to say “ didn’t we cover this earlier? “
 
This is a mod installed for safety. Sort of like a seat switch on a forklift where you have to be seated for it to run. I work down on the waterfront moving cargo mostly containers. It is a fast paced environment with lots of equipment and trucks moving in all directions at once. This change happened after someone climbed out of a vehicle to verify something and it wasn’t all the way in park. He was killed when the vehicle ran him over.

I've mentioned this several times but I am not opposed to some safety stuff since I circumvented some and almost paid dearly for it. I did a trans swap in an 05 which is not as straight forward to hook up the NSS as it is on other years. I checked with the owner, he said he was smart enough to start it only in park or put his foot on the brake, so, no problem, we'll leave it.

We had been adjusting the shifter cable, t-case, and other stuff. I needed to check something else real quick, so I just hopped into the seat with both legs hanging out the door. Started it, fired right up and then because it was in D, it started moving with another rig not very far away. I got it stopped with no harm but we figure out how to make the NSS work perfectly after that.
 
Tragic accident, I have learned to remove my foot off the brake before I open the door. I think what happens people open the door step out then remove their foot from the brake by then it’s too late. We ran black bear pass earlier this year and I made that suggestion to everyone before we started the day. I’m sure everyone has seen the video of he Jeep rolling down. Later that day on another trail one guy got out and his Jeep started rolling, I alerted him he got it stopped. I had to say “ didn’t we cover this earlier? “

I have the habit in my personal vehicles of setting the parking brake, shifting to neutral to see if it is holding before putting it in park. I strongly dislike the hard pop of the parking pawl being yanked out of its slot when it is disengaged under load. Most of my stuff parks on a slight incline as well.

Folks can NOT follow simple rules. In group runs with new folks that are unfamiliar with the area, the simplest way to keep everyone together is follow one simple rule. If you can't see the rig behind you in the rearview, stop. That ripple effect will go all the way to the leader and save lots of time looking for folks.

I've explained that on every trail run I've lead with new folks who may not be able to find their way back to camp. When I get back to camp and there are only 2 rig behind me, that last guy gets to turn around and go back and lead the lost folks in.
 
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This is not about the lawyers dumbing things down. It is about schools and parents raising idiots. When I was a kid, if you made a mistake you paid the price and learned from it. Today, you just start whining that it's not your fault and some shyster sues someone else for your mistake. Unfortunately, we have a plethora of lousy judges and sleazy lawyers who see an opportunity to make lots of money using these idiots for their own ends.
And, it's not just about stupid. In HS we had a math teacher who had his PhD in math explain how he had defeated the safety bar on his lawn mower. About six weeks later he came to class with his hand bandaged up where his thumb used to be. As Will Rogers said many years ago, "Common sense ain't so common."
 
Folks can NOT follow simple rules. In group runs with new folks that are unfamiliar with the area, the simplest way to keep everyone together is follow one simple rule. If you can't see the rig behind you in the rearview, stop. That ripple effect will go all the way to the leader and save lots of time looking for folks.
This happened to me a few years ago in a large group. The guy ahead of me was in his mom's brand new JL. The trail was very very narrow so I was navigating slowly to avoid at least some of the new pinstripes on the Jeep from the Ocala National Forrest. The guy ahead was just just flying around because he was a spoiled brat. At one point I had to call out of the CB that I had lost sight and needed to make a left or right turn. Most people did not have radios so it was a bit of a CF.. Once we finally all got linked up again the leader started calling his turns on the radio. Problem is with a larger group some of us were 2-3 or more turns behind him and that was much worse. I never went back with that group.
 
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I'll try to resist the temptation to wade into this discussion with "idiots", "Lawyers", and "effete Americans", never mind "smartphone idiots" and just say that a vehicle that shuts down when the driver's door is opened is completely idiotic. I open the damn door on occasion to back up! It never ceases to amaze me the sheer level of idiocy in this country - Americans and their interlocks. Our '96 VW was a *HUGE mistake, but at least it didn't have a stupid clutch interlock.

Its a direct consequence of the Socialist-Liberal cradle-to-grave ("Womb to Tomb") Nanny State (tm).
 
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My 19 year old Son wanted to learn to drive a stick and he makes sure to drive the LJ everytime he's home from college to keep up with it. I've never heard of a vehicle that shuts the engine down with drivers door open. I'm pretty sure I would never buy one that I did not know exactly how to change that before hand.

Gladiators and JLs go into park automatically if you open the door while reversing. When it first happened to me i thought I hit something.
 
I open the damn door on occasion to back up! It never ceases to amaze me the sheer level of idiocy in this country - Americans and their interlocks.

I have TWO friends who bent their drivers doors backwards while backing up and getting the open door caught on the garage door opening or side of the house. One truly deserved it and has probably done it since. The other guy is a pretty smart dude, might have been drinking.
 
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I have TWO friends who bent their drivers doors backwards while backing up and getting the open door caught on the garage door opening or side of the house. One truly deserved it and has probably done it since. The other guy is a pretty smart dude, might have been drinking.
Yep - you gotta watch what you're doing for sure. Shrubbery and trees will get you too!
 
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I have TWO friends who bent their drivers doors backwards while backing up and getting the open door caught on the garage door opening or side of the house. One truly deserved it and has probably done it since. The other guy is a pretty smart dude, might have been drinking.

They should have had a Tj:ROFLMAO: Luckily our doors can go all the way.
 
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just say that a vehicle that shuts down when the driver's door is opened is completely idiotic.
These are vehicles that never see the street, it can be a pain sometimes but if someone can go home at the end of the shift that’s what matters vs calling the family letting them know their loved one won’t be coming home.The vehicles get beat up the columns get worn out from running 20 hours a day constantly in and out of gear. Never enough time to keep up with the repairs.