Convenience of a 4-Door Model in a 2-Door Vehicle

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Some of you may already receive this email from Tom Severin, but thought this was well worth passing along. This is from my 4x4 club in Montana, I figured i'de copy and paste it here for a light read.



Convenience of a 4-Door Model in a 2-Door Vehicle
By Tom Severin October 11, 2017 October 11, 2017 2017 Articles

On the Rubicon Trail
Every once in a while a new product comes along that is a real game-changer for the 4WD community. It may not be flashy, but the product fills a void. Such is the case with the hinged side windows in the new hardtop for my Jeep Wrangler. What’s just as amazing is the story behind this tremendous find.
I was working on the Jeep one afternoon when this couple walks by. I know them vaguely, haven spoken a few times over the years. Jerry Mancini and his wife live about a block from me. Jerry owns Rally Tops,www.rallytops.com, located in nearby Gardena, Calif. They make hardtops for a variety of off-road vehicles, as well as tonneaus and bed covers for pickups.
At the time my Wrangler had an old, zipper challenged, yellowing windows soft top. As he approached Jerry said, “Did you ever think of putting a hardtop on that vehicle?” Coincidentally, that thought had crossed my mind every time I tried to unzip the rear window. “I have a top that will fit,” he said.
During a conversation, as I toured his factory, I outlined what I wanted. Jerry said he’d kick around the idea. He called me one day to say he had a solution, and asked me to bring in the Jeep. After he described what he had in mind, I agreed and thought, “That’s nice.”
But after I got the Jeep back “nice’ just wasn’t descriptive enough. I couldn’t stop thinking that this is a really fantastic solution.
Jerry solved an issue that has been bugging the heck out of me for years. Because my Wrangler is a two-door, packing gear and retrieving supplies can be a challenge. It’s really tough to find all those small spaces in the back. I’d have to reach over the back seat or climb in through the tailgate while packing and retrieving.

Pop-up side windows are a godsend

These side windows are just what I needed. Each swings up like a tailgate window. Two small struts hold the windows up and out of the way; the keyed handles keep your gear secure. Those handles recess when in closed position so they don’t get caught on brush or other material.
The hardtop is made of fiberglass and inlaid with mildew-resistant carpet. When installed, you’d swear it’s a stock hardtop: It’s designed that well. I ordered black, but I believe he also offers white and tan.
It’s amazing the difference these windows make. Loading up is much more efficient. I can reach all those pockets and holes that previously were nearly inaccessible. I find I can pack more into the Wrangler because I can access from the sides.

Size comparison of the flip up window on the yellow LJ
to a stock Jeep top on the silver LJ.

Retrieving stuff is equally slick. No more having to climb over the back seat or in past the tailgate. Just pop a window, and reach in. In the past I had to unload most of the vehicle to reach certain gear. Again, no more. Everything in the back of the Jeep is within arm’s reach. And I can reach it from the outside of the vehicle.

New windows pass an important test
Hinged windows may seem great on paper, but they must stand up to the rigors of four wheeling. If not, they’re of little value.
Soon after installing my new topper, I headed out on my annual Rubicon expedition. If you’ve done the Rubicon, you know how demanding it is – on humans and machines.
The route is dusty. It can – and did – rain, and rain heavily. And, of course, I got jostled about as only the Rubicon can do to you.
The new windows passed with flying colors. The locks never let go. The windows never popped open. There wasn’t a smidgen of dust or water in the cab. To say I was amazed is an understatement. In fact, I was flat out impressed.
Even though this was a one-off production, Jerry and his crew put their almost 3 decades of experience into it. The top fits like a glove, and the windows and window frames are of high quality. Jerry tells me that the top is a bit lighter than a stock hardtop, but it’s just as sturdy. I know I can count on years of worry-free use.

A couple quibbles with the new hardtop

Only two issues have come to light so far. For some reason, the locks on the driver side are keyed separately from the passenger side. My guess is that it’s a simple oversight. This was, after all, essentially a prototype.
I’d also like to see thicker bolt protectors on the undersides of the locks. Those bolt ends protrude quite a bit. If your vehicle is leaning toward you (causing the window edge to drop), you can bang your forehead on a bolt end. The bolt ends come covered with a small covering (see the image); a thicker and softer piece would be nice. I like the orange color as it's easier to see them from a distance.

Window size comparison of a Rally Top on the
left LJ to a stock Jeep LJ window on the right

Considering what a difference these windows make, I’m really surprised that more hardtops aren’t made this way. Whether Rally Tops will introduce the product I don’t know. I sense that if he were to begin production, Jerry would limit his hardtops Jeep models.
I’m sure he’s open to hearing from other 4WD enthusiasts. If you own a Jeep and are interested in learning more about the hardtop with the hinged windows, contact Jerry Mancini. He can be reached at 800-664-8677, or by email to [email protected] .
If Jerry realizes there is sufficient demand in the 4WD community for this type of hardtop, he might begin producing some models.
This is new window configuration is the perfect solution for a two-door Jeep Wrangler. The side windows make such a difference in being able to pack and retrieve your gear. I’m even more excited now to go four-wheeling. This new hard top has added a whole new dimension to my adventures. Perhaps one day you, too, will be able to enjoy the added benefits of this type of hardtop.
 
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I think the only pics are in the thread up top, were they not loading for you?
Nope, not loading. A simple copy and paste from another site wouldn’t transfer. Screen shots uploaded as pics would.
 
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Do you happen to have any pics? It sounds pretty interesting.
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Not sure why some of you are not able to see the pics, its showing up perfect on my end.
Let me know if you can see this one...
 
I like the side windows, what do you suspect something like this would cost? The TJ rally top is 1595 and the LJ is 1895. I imagine the hinged side windows would add $600-800.
 
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Not sure why some of you are not able to see the pics, its showing up perfect on my end.
Let me know if you can see this one...

Wow, I thought I liked their sliding screen windows but these are even cooler! Seriously would have to debate one of these if they came to market. What’s another couple grand dumped into the LJ?!?


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I've always been a soft top guy but I could go for something like this, especially if they made the side and rear windows easily removable so I could run it like a safari top. Perhaps a hinge arrangement similar to the door hinges or maybe an interrupted piano hinge?
 
If someone came up with a flip-up (or even two-panel sliding) window kit that would retrofit into the existing TJ hardtop, at a reasonable cost, they would make a fortune.
 
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I've always been a soft top guy but I could go for something like this, especially if they made the side and rear windows easily removable so I could run it like a safari top. Perhaps a hinge arrangement similar to the door hinges or maybe an interrupted piano hinge?
i know I’m reviving an old thread but I was just talking about removable windows for the hard tops the other day!! The guy I was talking to looked surprised and said “that’s your million dollar idea!” Yes, yes, yes!!!! That would be great! I could probably figure it out but I don’t have a hard top or the money to get one, place to keep one, time to figure it out...