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Today I had to cut through a second story interior wall of a 110 yr old farmhouse to gain attic access for a heat pump install.
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Found some neat wall paper from the 50's
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And some newspaper used to seal drafts from 1910. Cool stuff there. A Steven's repeating rifle was advertised at 6$
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Also some knob and tube wiring that still had power running through it...😳
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What stories do you guys have?

I have found guns,blasting caps and other explosives,and plenty of other neat and crazy things in these old houses!
 
Once we found a real silver dollar wedged in between a rafter and the roof planks on a historic home. Another time we opened up a wall in another historic home and found a model airplane made of a balsa wood frame with some kind of thin, moth eaten animal skin stretched over it and next to it was a hand drawn treasure map.

The strangest find was in a house we were working on and the buyer's first name was Lara (not Laura). She hadn't moved anything in yet. On the top shelf of the hall closet we found a 45 RPM record of "Lara's Theme".

A couple of times upon opening a wall we would find old fire damage that nobody knew about.

My best find was a barrel forge made with parts from a real 19th century forge that had probably rusted out so they used the parts to make the barrel forge. Nobody knew what it was and they were glad to get rid of it. I put it in my backyard and made a chimney and a blower for it, got some coal and used it for a couple years before building a gas forge. I still have the barrel forge and can use it for larger pieces or when I need more heat than the gas forge can produce.

Found old newspapers as well but nothing as old as that 1910 one you found.
 
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... Also some knob and tube wiring that still had power running through it...😳

What stories do you guys have?

We have a circa 1900 money pit, I mean house. Well, the tax form says it was built in 1900 but a local historian says they've seen other records indicating it goes back to the 1860s.

When the house was first electrified, it was with knob and tube, and some of it was still in use when we purchased the house in 2010. What I did not know about knob and tube, or at least the way the original installer installed it in our case, was that the neutral return was often daisy chained for all circuits and the hot wire was home to the fuse box for each circuit. When we bought the house, the fuse box had been replaced with a circuit breaker panel and maybe three or four circuits remained on the knob and tube.

Before I got too deep into rewiring, I was just changing some switches and outlets here and there. I would switch off the circuit I was working on but would sometimes still get shocked by the return, because it was carrying return voltage from another circuit. You would think I would have learned my lesson and started switching the main off when I was working on anything. Another time I was slithering on my back under the house (crawlspace) and crossed over a hot exposed wire that was just lying in the sand. That one hurt like a MF, as I was in contact for a couple of seconds with a sweaty back before I could slither off of the wire. I think I was lucky that it was a small gauge wire and there was enough insulation on the wire to limit the surface area.

Now I always turn off the main if I'm near any of that stuff.

We've found old newspapers that were discussing JFK's assassination used as insulation in one of the later additions, and some old large format negatives that somehow ended up under the house. We also had an old dresser in the attic with a stuck drawers that we never really messed with. When we decided to try and open it last year we found about 10 VHS tape cases from 1980s adult films.

Some of the neater things uncovered at the hints you get of the history of what the house may have looked like in the past. We found evidence that two of the rooms had been a carport or porch at some point in their history. We found remnants of an old roof between the drop ceiling of a downstairs room and the room above it. We found evidence of an old stairway that we believe was part of the original house when it was just the center section.

Here is a shot of the house. We think the center section, minus the front porch and the giant columns was the original house. Just a big box with a gable roof. We think the kitchen, which is tucked in behind the little porch you see sticking out on the far left and would have stuck out from the "big box" was part of the original house as well, as there is a fireplace that used to be big enough to cook a cow in that has been bricked-in to insert size. The rest of the right side was added next, followed by the first section on the left (which we think was a carport) then the actual garage further to the left and the second floor above first section on the left (where the JFK papers were found). Somewhere among these additions they added the big columns and made an addition to the back as well. You can the order somewhat by the type of lumber. All the original stuff is rough sawn true dimension or oversized old growth pine that can catch on fire it you try to drill through it too fast. Later is S4S true dimension lumber, and later you start seeing smaller than true dimension lumber.
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With K&T it was common (no pun intended) to switch the neutral. Sharing neutrals was and still is allowed however it is only allowed to share a neutral between 2 opposing legs of a single phase service, or all 3 legs of a 3 phase service.

We went to a house once where they shared a single K&T neutral between 4 K&T circuits and the owner called because there was smoke coming out of the attic. When we arrived the neutral was so hot you couldn't touch it. We had to shut them down and came the following week and rewired all of it.

Another hazard we see is thermal insulation put over K&T which is a no-no. K&T, due to it's separation, generates heat through induction and needs to be in free air and protected with porcelain "tubes" where it passes thru drilled holes. Once it was understood that putting 2 conductors in close proximity to each other eliminated the inductive heating by canceling out each other's magnetic field, cables such as armored cable and NM cable (Romex) were born which can be buried in insulation and safely pass thru holes in combustibles. Speaking of the old armored cable, never ever grab one or lay across one without first checking it for hot (energized) skin. Seen it become energized more than a time or 2 in the attic, and seen it glowing a dull cherry red when in long runs and shorted as it won't carry enough current to trip a breaker and instead becomes a heating element. The old armored cable is more hazardous than K&T IMO.

The new one is called MC or "metal clad" cable and includes a ground wire and is very safe, available in steel and aluminum, regular and hospital grade which is effectively double grounded/bonded.

BTW that's a really beautiful home.
 
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We have a circa 1900 money pit, I mean house. Well, the tax form says it was built in 1900 but a local historian says they've seen other records indicating it goes back to the 1860s.

When the house was first electrified, it was with knob and tube, and some of it was still in use when we purchased the house in 2010. What I did not know about knob and tube, or at least the way the original installer installed it in our case, was that the neutral return was often daisy chained for all circuits and the hot wire was home to the fuse box for each circuit. When we bought the house, the fuse box had been replaced with a circuit breaker panel and maybe three or four circuits remained on the knob and tube.

Before I got too deep into rewiring, I was just changing some switches and outlets here and there. I would switch off the circuit I was working on but would sometimes still get shocked by the return, because it was carrying return voltage from another circuit. You would think I would have learned my lesson and started switching the main off when I was working on anything. Another time I was slithering on my back under the house (crawlspace) and crossed over a hot exposed wire that was just lying in the sand. That one hurt like a MF, as I was in contact for a couple of seconds with a sweaty back before I could slither off of the wire. I think I was lucky that it was a small gauge wire and there was enough insulation on the wire to limit the surface area.

Now I always turn off the main if I'm near any of that stuff.

We've found old newspapers that were discussing JFK's assassination used as insulation in one of the later additions, and some old large format negatives that somehow ended up under the house. We also had an old dresser in the attic with a stuck drawers that we never really messed with. When we decided to try and open it last year we found about 10 VHS tape cases from 1980s adult films.

Some of the neater things uncovered at the hints you get of the history of what the house may have looked like in the past. We found evidence that two of the rooms had been a carport or porch at some point in their history. We found remnants of an old roof between the drop ceiling of a downstairs room and the room above it. We found evidence of an old stairway that we believe was part of the original house when it was just the center section.

Here is a shot of the house. We think the center section, minus the front porch and the giant columns was the original house. Just a big box with a gable roof. We think the kitchen, which is tucked in behind the little porch you see sticking out on the far left and would have stuck out from the "big box" was part of the original house as well, as there is a fireplace that used to be big enough to cook a cow in that has been bricked-in to insert size. The rest of the right side was added next, followed by the first section on the left (which we think was a carport) then the actual garage further to the left and the second floor above first section on the left (where the JFK papers were found). Somewhere among these additions they added the big columns and made an addition to the back as well. You can the order somewhat by the type of lumber. All the original stuff is rough sawn true dimension or oversized old growth pine that can catch on fire it you try to drill through it too fast. Later is S4S true dimension lumber, and later you start seeing smaller than true dimension lumber.
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All the older homes i work on are true dimension redwood. They last forever if you keep a roof on them but catch on fire very quickly like your pine. The old growth redwood is so rot resistant that many of them still have logs on the ground notched for the floor joists inside of the foundations(which where poured much later in most cases).
 
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@Rickyd I take it your trade is HVAC?

Commercial refrigeration and going as far into hvac as heat pumps and central heat retrofits.

Btw,good to know about the heat generation. I had to dig around in blown on insulation to find studs and the live k&t. I won't pile that crap back on it
 
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The only thing I seem to find are dead cats...
But this one time, I go over to a friend of a friend to fix their pool light.
Upon entering the house I immediately smelled what seemed to be a full diaper.
Then I see a pair of 2 yo twins running through the kitchen and I realized it could actually be TWO full diapers (which made more sense).

I didn't say anything, just got the details for the pool light project and then got to work.
It turned into a major PITA, but since they were a referral I stuck with it and finally got their light working again.

As I was taking tools to the truck, I went down the side yard and caught a whiff that almost knocked me over!
I thought I had stepped in fresh dog crap, so I shine a light around my feet, but couldn't find anything, then I saw the crawlspace access panel, and water was leaking out from under it into the yard.

I shined my light into the crawlspace and discovered standing water and floating excrement under the entire house!

She asked me if it was something that I could repair, and I immediately said that you couldn't fit enough money under the house for me to crawl in there!
 
We have a circa 1900 money pit, I mean house. Well, the tax form says it was built in 1900 but a local historian says they've seen other records indicating it goes back to the 1860s.

When the house was first electrified, it was with knob and tube, and some of it was still in use when we purchased the house in 2010. What I did not know about knob and tube, or at least the way the original installer installed it in our case, was that the neutral return was often daisy chained for all circuits and the hot wire was home to the fuse box for each circuit. When we bought the house, the fuse box had been replaced with a circuit breaker panel and maybe three or four circuits remained on the knob and tube.

Before I got too deep into rewiring, I was just changing some switches and outlets here and there. I would switch off the circuit I was working on but would sometimes still get shocked by the return, because it was carrying return voltage from another circuit. You would think I would have learned my lesson and started switching the main off when I was working on anything. Another time I was slithering on my back under the house (crawlspace) and crossed over a hot exposed wire that was just lying in the sand. That one hurt like a MF, as I was in contact for a couple of seconds with a sweaty back before I could slither off of the wire. I think I was lucky that it was a small gauge wire and there was enough insulation on the wire to limit the surface area.

Now I always turn off the main if I'm near any of that stuff.

We've found old newspapers that were discussing JFK's assassination used as insulation in one of the later additions, and some old large format negatives that somehow ended up under the house. We also had an old dresser in the attic with a stuck drawers that we never really messed with. When we decided to try and open it last year we found about 10 VHS tape cases from 1980s adult films.

Some of the neater things uncovered at the hints you get of the history of what the house may have looked like in the past. We found evidence that two of the rooms had been a carport or porch at some point in their history. We found remnants of an old roof between the drop ceiling of a downstairs room and the room above it. We found evidence of an old stairway that we believe was part of the original house when it was just the center section.

Here is a shot of the house. We think the center section, minus the front porch and the giant columns was the original house. Just a big box with a gable roof. We think the kitchen, which is tucked in behind the little porch you see sticking out on the far left and would have stuck out from the "big box" was part of the original house as well, as there is a fireplace that used to be big enough to cook a cow in that has been bricked-in to insert size. The rest of the right side was added next, followed by the first section on the left (which we think was a carport) then the actual garage further to the left and the second floor above first section on the left (where the JFK papers were found). Somewhere among these additions they added the big columns and made an addition to the back as well. You can the order somewhat by the type of lumber. All the original stuff is rough sawn true dimension or oversized old growth pine that can catch on fire it you try to drill through it too fast. Later is S4S true dimension lumber, and later you start seeing smaller than true dimension lumber.
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That is a beautiful house!!
 
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The only thing I seem to find are dead cats...
But this one time, I go over to a friend of a friend to fix their pool light.
Upon entering the house I immediately smelled what seemed to be a full diaper.
Then I see a pair of 2 yo twins running through the kitchen and I realized it could actually be TWO full diapers (which made more sense).

I didn't say anything, just got the details for the pool light project and then got to work.
It turned into a major PITA, but since they were a referral I stuck with it and finally got their light working again.

As I was taking tools to the truck, I went down the side yard and caught a whiff that almost knocked me over!
I thought I had stepped in fresh dog crap, so I shine a light around my feet, but couldn't find anything, then I saw the crawlspace access panel, and water was leaking out from under it into the yard.

I shined my light into the crawlspace and discovered standing water and floating excrement under the entire house!

She asked me if it was something that I could repair, and I immediately said that you couldn't fit enough money under the house for me to crawl in there!

Dead cats are pretty much expected under old houses. I've also seen the busted sewer pipe a couple times. That's where a plumber really earns his pay. I sure don't miss going under houses.
 
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All the older homes i work on are true dimension redwood. They last forever if you keep a roof on them but catch on fire very quickly like your pine. The old growth redwood is so rot resistant that many of them still have logs on the ground notched for the floor joists inside of the foundations (which where poured much later in most cases).
Since I'm on the east coast all the older framing is Southern Yellow Pine. The columns are not, however. I thought they were redwood when I we stripped and repaired them. The guy I brought in to paint after the strip and repair said he thought they were mahogany. I think he may be right since they did not have the smell I typically associate with redwood, but the color looks more redwood than mahogany to me.

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The only thing I seem to find are dead cats...

I've found a whole family of mummified rabbits under my house.
 
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Since I'm on the east coast all the older framing is Southern Yellow Pine. The columns are not, however. I thought they were redwood when I we stripped and repaired them. The guy I brought in to paint after the strip and repair said he thought they were mahogany. I think he may be right since they did not have the smell I typically associate with redwood, but the color looks more redwood than mahogany to me.

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I've found a whole family of mummified rabbits under my house.

Redwood is very soft. Softer than pine if that helps
 
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Another thing we would frequently find were old soda bottles. Back in the old days every city had it's own local bottlers, sometimes many, many of them. Some of the bottles we found were names we had never heard of and would have to Google them to read about the company, there were a couple that didn't even show up on Google.

Another thing that I found amusing was finding other stuff that previous workers left behind. I use the small plastic Mentholatum bottles to hold small parts like ground screws and barrel crimps. Once I found an old rusty metal Mentholatum tin under a house with barrel crimps in it!

I've also learned a few tricks from "dead" electricians by coming across their work decades later. You can usually date an installation by the type of materials used. I remember the first trick I learned was making little "Cheerios" with scrap wire to shim out a device by placing them under the screws, still use that one to this day. For thicker shims just make it into a springlike spiral and trim to fit. For Decora devices make it smaller at the top like a pyramid so it won't interfere with the wall plate screws.
 
Our house in SoCal prior to a remodel was occupied by squatters. Then sat vacant for a couple more years until there was a significant price drop.
We bought it after the owner agreed to repaint the interior & exterior and add new carpet. After a final inspection and walk through, we could finally move in. In the master bath linen closet ( with the use of a ladder ) i found some award plaque's and a framed gold record for Rosie and the Originals, "Angel Baby". Through series of phone calls, we were able to get in touch with her manager and arrange a meet & greet with them.
She, Rosie, said that those items were stolen from her by a former manager about 10 years prior to us moving in to the house.
She presumed them lost for ever. It was good to see her eyes light up when we gave them back to her.
We declined a reward saying that it was our pleasure to return them.
 
Coolest thing we've found going through the new to us old family farm is a pistol buried in the rubble of the "old house." They are both old, but the original farm house is the tiny one that is to the rear and right of the green house.

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Octagonal Barrel, Black Powder Cartridge Pistol. Under the grips, the year 190something is inscribed by hand.

We've found a bunch of old mason jars, an insect fogger, lunch pail, and some other oddities. This summer, the green house is coming down and I know there are some old cast iron appliances in there that my wife wants to Rescue.
 
We have a circa 1900 money pit, I mean house. Well, the tax form says it was built in 1900 but a local historian says they've seen other records indicating it goes back to the 1860s.

When the house was first electrified, it was with knob and tube, and some of it was still in use when we purchased the house in 2010. What I did not know about knob and tube, or at least the way the original installer installed it in our case, was that the neutral return was often daisy chained for all circuits and the hot wire was home to the fuse box for each circuit. When we bought the house, the fuse box had been replaced with a circuit breaker panel and maybe three or four circuits remained on the knob and tube.

Before I got too deep into rewiring, I was just changing some switches and outlets here and there. I would switch off the circuit I was working on but would sometimes still get shocked by the return, because it was carrying return voltage from another circuit. You would think I would have learned my lesson and started switching the main off when I was working on anything. Another time I was slithering on my back under the house (crawlspace) and crossed over a hot exposed wire that was just lying in the sand. That one hurt like a MF, as I was in contact for a couple of seconds with a sweaty back before I could slither off of the wire. I think I was lucky that it was a small gauge wire and there was enough insulation on the wire to limit the surface area.

Now I always turn off the main if I'm near any of that stuff.

We've found old newspapers that were discussing JFK's assassination used as insulation in one of the later additions, and some old large format negatives that somehow ended up under the house. We also had an old dresser in the attic with a stuck drawers that we never really messed with. When we decided to try and open it last year we found about 10 VHS tape cases from 1980s adult films.

Some of the neater things uncovered at the hints you get of the history of what the house may have looked like in the past. We found evidence that two of the rooms had been a carport or porch at some point in their history. We found remnants of an old roof between the drop ceiling of a downstairs room and the room above it. We found evidence of an old stairway that we believe was part of the original house when it was just the center section.

Here is a shot of the house. We think the center section, minus the front porch and the giant columns was the original house. Just a big box with a gable roof. We think the kitchen, which is tucked in behind the little porch you see sticking out on the far left and would have stuck out from the "big box" was part of the original house as well, as there is a fireplace that used to be big enough to cook a cow in that has been bricked-in to insert size. The rest of the right side was added next, followed by the first section on the left (which we think was a carport) then the actual garage further to the left and the second floor above first section on the left (where the JFK papers were found). Somewhere among these additions they added the big columns and made an addition to the back as well. You can the order somewhat by the type of lumber. All the original stuff is rough sawn true dimension or oversized old growth pine that can catch on fire it you try to drill through it too fast. Later is S4S true dimension lumber, and later you start seeing smaller than true dimension lumber.
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That's a fucking-A cool house. LOVE IT!!

There's nothing wrong with Knob and Tube wiring if its maintained AND isn't fucked with or had crap added to it incorrectly - which is mostly.

Had a 1955 house in Commiefornia that was framed with redwood, and even had redwood siding.
 
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Another house had this for a shower.

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I'm trying to find a pic of the homemade "bidet". It was a kitchen sink sprayer attached to the toilet. :LOL:

Looks like I deleted that pic and the pics of a working toilet mounted in a kitchen beside a working stove, sink and refrigerator.

I also came across one of yalls mommas purple out-of-balance things, but I think I deleted that one too. :LOL:
 
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