ECM complete removal

Manual transmission? Not too hard. Automatic you'll need to swap it out for a non computer controlled version. As previously said,all gauges need replaced and you'll need a carb intake and an hei ignition. If you aren't mechanical its a tall order.
 
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Minor correction to your mostly correct post. The TJ (all of them) have a throttle body that does have a throttle cable going to it.

Embarrassing:oops:. I guess I was thinking about some other system, thinking that the Throttle Position Sensor did something else. (Well, I DID say that I'm not a mechanic). However I'm guessing that the existing throttle cable WOULD have to be replaced, though.:unsure:
 
There are lots of ways to do lots of things, but most of those are like peeking around the shower curtain at your granny. Just because you can, doesn't really mean you should. Can it be done? Sure, go back to late 60's technology and the bullshit that entails. If want anything solid, reliable, good levels of drivability, easy starts, with very consistent performance, that's going to take a computer and a few sensors. And while you may have intentionally overlooked my 700R4 answer, I know of a couple who have done those swaps behind the 4 liter, they never did get them right and these are folks who know what they are doing, not some hack who has never seen a dipstick except in a Jimmy commercial.

I wouldn't put a 700R4 into anything on a bet, even if I were a person who liked automatic transmissions, which I'm not. One of the worst transmission families GM ever came up with - unless they fixed the darn things later than the ones I've seen fail, blow up, and strand their owners. GM actually fixed the 350 olds diesel late in its life cycle too, but that doesn't mean I want one.

As for FI, it is completely possible to accomplish without a computer - which would be a good thing. But retrofit availability for the 4.0 is an unknown. I don't really have a problem myself with a carb, but the FI is mo' bettah!
 
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Well, I’m not a mechanic dick.
Please tell me exactly why someone couldn’t take all the computer controlled components out and replace them or do without them all together. As stated , I’m not a mechanic and I’m becoming less and less of a jeep enthusiast everyday.

Because all of the systems work at a cohesive unit. You can't invent the wheel my friend. If you want a non computer jeep CJ is what you want.
 
Well I’m sure it could be done with enough time, resources, knowledge, etc. but by then might as well have gotten something older and build it to your liking. Had a 55 Willys pickup, thing was awesome and extremely simple to work on.
 
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OP....ignore the douchebags. We have a few on this site. Don't become one yourself in reaction to the ones here.

The only real answer to your question for a TJ is, do a 4BT diesel conversion with a manual transmission. Warning though....it won't be cheap.

I know of one in my area. It's awesome!

I also have talked to a guy who is planning to turbo charge a Kubota engine and drop it in a TJ. He hasn't done it yet so can't say that it works.
 
OP....ignore the douchebags. We have a few on this site. Don't become one yourself in reaction to the ones here.

The only real answer to your question for a TJ is, do a 4BT diesel conversion with a manual transmission. Warning though....it won't be cheap.

I know of one in my area. It's awesome!

I also have talked to a guy who is planning to turbo charge a Kubota engine and drop it in a TJ. He hasn't done it yet so can't say that it works.

So, his 500 dollar problem is readily solved with a 15 grand minimum solution? Perfect.
 
OP....ignore the douchebags. We have a few on this site. Don't become one yourself in reaction to the ones here.

The only real answer to your question for a TJ is, do a 4BT diesel conversion with a manual transmission. Warning though....it won't be cheap.

I know of one in my area. It's awesome!

I also have talked to a guy who is planning to turbo charge a Kubota engine and drop it in a TJ. He hasn't done it yet so can't say that it works.

IMHO a 4BT has no place in a jeep.

To the OP why don't you figure out the problem instead of giving up? Your jeep has one of the most basic FI systems ever short of TBI.

If it's about money have you factored in the cost to swap to something non computerized? Also cobbling something carbureted in a tj will kill the resal value.
 
IMHO a 4BT has no place in a jeep.

To the OP why don't you figure out the problem instead of giving up? Your jeep has one of the most basic FI systems ever short of TBI.

If it's about money have you factored in the cost to swap to something non computerized? Also cobbling something carbureted in a tj will kill the resal value.

IMHO it's great.

It's a personal opinion. Just because you don't want to, doesn't mean someone else should not do it.

I don't have a 4BT conversion because, while I have the ability, I don't have the time and don't want to spend the money. But, it will eliminate the computer just like the OP would like to do. Don't think he mentioned cost and if cost is no object, a 4BT conversion would meet his desires. Only he can decide what's best for him.

Resale value only matters if you plan to resell. If you don't plan to resell it, then resale value is irrelevant.
 
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IMHO it's great.

It's a personal opinion. Just because you don't want to, doesn't mean someone else should not do it.

I don't have a 4BT conversion because, while I have the ability, I don't have the time and don't want to spend the money. But, it will eliminate the computer just like the OP would like to do. Don't think he mentioned cost and if cost is no object, a 4BT conversion would meet his desires. Only he can decide what's best for him.

Resale value only matters if you plan to resell. If you don't plan to resell it, then resale value is irrelevant.

So you are recommending the OP swap in a 4BT but you have never done the conversion yourself? So what are you basing your opinion on? What others have told you?
 
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So you are recommending the OP swap in a 4BT but you have never done the conversion yourself? So what are you basing your opinion on? What others have told you?

Reading is fundamental. I don't care what the OP does but it is a solution to what he wants to do. I don't know if it's a solution he wants but it's definitely one answer to what he wants. There are multiple answers to what the OP would like to do. He's asked so solutions have been suggested. He doesn't have to take any of the offered solutions. He could even sell his Jeep and buy something else all together. I can't say what the best solution is for him...you can't say what the best solution is for him......only he can decide that based on the information provided to him.

Don't be all offended at opinions and suggestions. It's not your Jeep...it's his. It's still a free country...mostly....so the OP doesn't need our permission to do anything to his Jeep. He can take it out and burn it to the ground if he wants...it's his Jeep to do with it as he chooses. I'm not offended that others here have offered various different suggestions to the OP. I recommend you do the same.
 
Reading is fundamental. I don't care what the OP does but it is a solution to what he wants to do. I don't know if it's a solution he wants but it's definitely one answer to what he wants. There are multiple answers to what the OP would like to do. He's asked so solutions have been suggested. He doesn't have to take any of the offered solutions. He could even sell his Jeep and buy something else all together. I can't say what the best solution is for him...you can't say what the best solution is for him......only he can decide that based on the information provided to him.

Don't be all offended at opinions and suggestions. It's not your Jeep...it's his. It's still a free country...mostly....so the OP doesn't need our permission to do anything to his Jeep. He can take it out and burn it to the ground if he wants...it's his Jeep to do with it as he chooses. I'm not offended that others here have offered various different suggestions to the OP. I recommend you do the same.

I wish to suggest a steam engine conversion.
http://www.imajeenyus.com/mechanical/20070507_petrol_to_steam/index.shtml

No naysayers. It's a free country!
 
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