Gotcha. I’m curious how much force it would take to bend/tear a Jeep frame. I don’t suppose a single snatch block on a 10k winch would be enough.
Same applies to winching.
Freedom winch line 3.0 from the Bleepin Guy
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Except I don't go around telling anyone to winch, use a hi-lift, or do a kinetic recovery.
I’ll bet it did! That’s a horrible thing to see. I have a 45 year-old memory of seeing a mostly-charred body of someone I knew being pulled out of a service station owned by a friend’s father. He (the deceased) was using a torch near a full gas tank, and he inadvertently cut through the piece he was cutting and into the gas tank, dropping the contents on the floor around him simultaneously with the ignition. I was on the second floor of the school across the street with a birds-eye view. He was still alive and moving when they pulled him out, but didn’t make it into the ambulance alive. I can still vividly recall the incident all these years later. My lesson from that - complacency kills!
Everybody seems hung up on the tree saver aspect or lack there of.
I'm not seeing significant difference between using the Freedom winch line and the TRE tree saver soft shackle which I believe people liked.
The Freedom line is 3/8" doubled so 3/4" and the TRE looks to be 7/8" so an 1/8" difference.
https://www.tacticalrecoveryequipment.com/product/tree-soft-shackle/
I'm not seeing significant difference between using the Freedom winch line and the TRE tree saver soft shackle which I believe people liked.
The Freedom line is 3/8" doubled so 3/4" and the TRE looks to be 7/8" so an 1/8" difference.
https://www.tacticalrecoveryequipment.com/product/tree-soft-shackle/
The original intent for that was not as a tree saver. Originally it was for a rock strap. One of the few place where an abrasion guard is appropriate. I wouldn't like to see folks use it as a tree saver where you really need to spread the load out a bunch more than that does.
That makes more sense.
I've not seen one in the wild but I believe people were buying them for their as advertised use.
Agree a good wide strap would be better when it comes to minimizing the damage on a tree.
I’d love to see Wizard Recovery Gear offer a tree saver . I have trust issues with the majority of tree savers that I see mass marketed . I have no such issues with WRG products . I will continue to use my old lifting strap for now .
My most-used recovery equipment is a strap. Easier and quicker than a winch in most situations. It doubles as a tree saver. I've considered a dedicated tree saver but haven't really needed it. Maybe if I did tougher trails and winched more it would make sense.
Currently, my setup consists of two low stretch 10ft straps, a 30ft kinetic rope, one pulley and five soft shackles. That has provided the versatility I have needed, so far. If anything, I would consider adding a pair of low stretch 20ft straps.
No reason for me to do that. Find a place that sells out of date lifting slings. They are way overbuilt for what we need, they are cheap, and they work very well. That is also what I use because you can just abuse the crap out of them and not worry about it.
That’s a similar load out to what I have as well. One twenty foot tow strap/tree saver, 30’ kinetic rope, four soft shackles, and a std steel bow shackle in case I need to connect to something sharp. I also include a Velcro on chaff guard that I’ve never used and a pair of leather gloves for working with steel cable. All fits in one duffle. Easy to grab and work with.