All I know is that the typical control arm replacements most buy and install fits into the same factory mounts the stock arms used to be in.
And to revisit the MC track bar hypocrisy, their front axle side proprietary bushing is smaller than the factory bonded rubber bushing. And it is entirely different than their control arm bushings. Meaning, less rubber to make their NVH claims off of.
And FWIW, I used to have a front MC track bar before I replaced it with Currie. In part because I got tired of the cheap heim joint wearing out. Even though MC would send me free replacements.
And JJs don't contain any rubber. So, yes. A Metalcloak bushing has more rubber than a Johnny Joint.
That doesn't really do what I would expect an electronic shock to have going for it. That is basically (if the racer's description of how they use it is accurate) just a remote controlled DSC. I would expect it to be accelerometer based and adjust the damping automatically calculating shaft speed and position.
I have some high praise for the Duroflex Control Arm, TJ/LJ Double Adjustable Aluminum Short Arms made by MetalCloak. I recently installed them into my jeep due to needing to adjust some driveline and wheelbase measurements. I had concerns about my front driveline bottoming out w/ a combination of the stock driveshaft, 3 inches of lift, and a HP Dana 30 in the front. Also I needed to make a slight adjustment to the pinion angle in the rear. This is the main reason I bought the arms.
But the ride quality these arms have given me is too incredible not to talk about. I am absolutely blown away by how little shock gets put into the cabin from bumps, potholes or ruts now. Some potholes that used to shake my teeth; I don't even feel anymore. The jeep just absorbs it as if I drove over a tiny twig. And I know my factory arm bushings were in good condition because I replaced them all due to being blown a couple years back. The flex is also a ridiculous upgrade. Such an upgrade in-fact, that I can no longer jack my jeep from the pumpkin; the flex is just that crazy.
Pictures and videos to follow, as well as a pre and post tests with my seismograph. I truly can't recommend these arms enough.
How do they ride now though? How many miles? They holding up okay? I saw your postings from 2019 or so, about when you started using the bushings. So how are they?
I really don't know anymore. 45K-55K maybe. Suspension wise, the jeep rides the same. I service the arms once a year. Clean them, grease them and repeat, but I'm not rock humping the jeep every fucking weekend, so mileage will surely vary.
Upgrading my zone 3 inch shocks (that we're 10 years old and blown) to the Ranchos RS5000x's didn't give me nearly as much improvement as these control arms did. Alot of people forget that the control arms are just as important to the ride characteristics of your suspension as the shocks and springs. Once again i'm being completely serious. Here's some attachments of the arms on my vehicle.
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We do love joints that can last here and that joint is a Jhonny joint.
Metcalcloak is not liked because they make certain claims about their products leading the customer to believe they have a product that is better.
From their page.
“The MetalCloak's Game-Changing Duroflex™ Jointsprovide the industry's best ride quality. Period.”
Uhhh yea no. It’s not game changing. It’s not the best ride quality. Period.
We don’t like companies that spew out bullshit to their customers.
I will say this…trolling or not, if you’re enjoying your new control arms, that’s all that really matters. I have no personal experience with Metalcloak other than what I’ve heard.