How bad is wheelspin on pavement?

[adventureboss]

This is kind of a silly question and I'm working on changing my driving style... but I'm just wondering, how bad is spinning the tires on pavement for these Jeeps? I am on the stock 28" tires with the DANA 35 in the back and have the 4.0 w/ a manual. Am basically showroom stock. One thing I didn't expect before I bought my Jeep was how easy it would be to "peel out". Don't know if that's because of the low end torque, or gearing, or something else.

I'm asking because it seems like every so often, when I'm trying to get onto a road with fast moving traffic and I have to accelerate hard, or when I have to get over to the next lane, the tires squeal a bit unintentionally when starting off and then I just feel guilty for abusing my poor Jeep. Working on teaching myself some patience and just waiting for a big opening, but then of course the guy behind me gets mad. Doesn't help I'm in the Phoenix area and it really seems like many people just floor it from a light. So how bad is this on the mechanicals? I understand the DANA 35 is not known for being durable which is my main concern.

 

[JustDandee]

Sounds like tire grip is the weak link…open diff Dana 35 with 28’s not real concerning in my mind eyes-

How old are the tires/cheap brand could as be contributed to some of the ease of which you burn rubber….but a smother left/right foot combination can fix most things

 

[Rickyd]

Embrace it. Hold your right foot down and crank the wheel hard to the left or right.

If something breaks,fix it.

 

[adventureboss]

Sounds like tire grip is the weak link…open diff Dana 35 with 28’s not real concerning in my mind eyes-

How old are the tires/cheap brand could as be contributed to some of the ease of which you burn rubber….but a smother left/right foot combination can fix most things

The tires are actually practically brand new. Used to run a set of Kumho Crugens and now am running some Hankooks, so I guess mid tier tires. They are maybe a few weeks old at this point. This used to happen pretty easily on the Kumhos too though, so I think it really is my driving style. Guess I'm just curious as to if it does any harm other than a little extra wear and tear.

 

[GregBelleville]

Embrace it. Hold your right foot down and crank the wheel hard to the left or right.

If something breaks,fix it.

Poetry

 

[OldBuzzard]

You'll see a lot of talk on this forum about the weakness of the Dana 35. But that's mostly about using 35" tires, with a locker, and stock axle shafts, in difficult terrain.

With your stock tire size, and open diff, I doubt if you could break something unless you tried really hard, repeatedly, for months. A tire chirp every day keeps a grin on your face.

 

[ColoJeep]

A Dana 35 will let you know when it's had enough , Surprisingly , it will let you know at the least expected time . I've seen stock 4.0 Cherokees with automatics and 28" street tires make a D - 35 sign - off the spider gears and carrier ....

 

[machoheadgames]

With 28” tires, you’re not abusing anything. A lighter foot will help lessen the burnouts, but other than better tires that grip more, not a whole lot can be done. You’re not abusing it until you’re burning out on larger tires, which requires a lot more torque going through the rear axle shafts to accomplish.

 

[hear]

Poetry

Embrace it. Hold your right foot down and crank the wheel hard to the left or right.

If something breaks,fix it.

Embrace it

Hold your right foot down
Crank the wheel hard left or right
Something breaks? Fix it



Now it's poetry.

#haikuMafia

 

[Superjay5]

If you are spinning your tires you are actually losing acceleration, so don’t do that. Get the rig moving before you stomp on it.

At the same time I like a burn out as much as the next guy.

 

[macleanflood]

Send it. Burnouts for distance!

-Mac

 

[JMT]

This is kind of a silly question and I'm working on changing my driving style... but I'm just wondering, how bad is spinning the tires on pavement for these Jeeps? I am on the stock 28" tires with the DANA 35 in the back and have the 4.0 w/ a manual. Am basically showroom stock. One thing I didn't expect before I bought my Jeep was how easy it would be to "peel out". Don't know if that's because of the low end torque, or gearing, or something else.

I'm asking because it seems like every so often, when I'm trying to get onto a road with fast moving traffic and I have to accelerate hard, or when I have to get over to the next lane, the tires squeal a bit unintentionally when starting off and then I just feel guilty for abusing my poor Jeep. Working on teaching myself some patience and just waiting for a big opening, but then of course the guy behind me gets mad. Doesn't help I'm in the Phoenix area and it really seems like many people just floor it from a light. So how bad is this on the mechanicals? I understand the DANA 35 is not known for being durable which is my main concern.

Most of us would die to be able to burn out in a TJ.

Relax, enjoy, and drive!

 

[BlueC]

I'm asking because it seems like every so often, when I'm trying to get onto a road with fast moving traffic and I have to accelerate hard, or when I have to get over to the next lane, the tires squeal a bit unintentionally

Sounds to me like you are intentionally trying to drive hard and chirp tires, but I won't tell anybody. If this is a real concern then stop "speed shifting" (hard on the trans, especially syncros), and/or lower you tire PSI, because I think you have 'em pumped too tight.

I come from the world of hot roddin' and when I first got my mostly stock Jeep I got a little froggy and did a one-wheel-peel, then another. Well, on #3 she jumped then BOOM, I grenaded the spider gears and cracked the carrier. I now have a Super35.

 

[Zorba]

My old MBZ will break loose the RH rear tire on the 1-2 shift (auto) if conditions are even vaguely slippery. Sometimes even at launch. Drives me NUTS, stick to the damn pavement!

 

[BlueC]

My old MBZ will break loose the RH rear tire on the 1-2 shift (auto) if conditions are even vaguely slippery. Sometimes even at launch. Drives me NUTS, stick to the damn pavement!

Better tires and/or better tire pressure will solve that. Also, a little extra weight, say 50 lbs, right behind that tire will do it.

 

[TheBoogieman]

I found a way to stop that wheelspin on pavement.

 

[TheBoogieman]

My old MBZ will break loose the RH rear tire on the 1-2 shift (auto) if conditions are even vaguely slippery. Sometimes even at launch. Drives me NUTS, stick to the damn pavement!

My Miata doesn't have that problem.

 

[NashvilleTJ]

Man, my tires suck. Every time I mash the loud pedal the damn things break loose. No traction!

 

[TheBoogieman]

Man, my tires suck. Every time I mash the loud pedal the damn things break loose. No traction!

A 2.5L engine swap will fix that issue. Even better, look for a 4.2L.

 

[srimes]

I wouldn't worry at all about "normal" spinning on stock tires from a hard launch, laying down rubber for a couple car lengths, other than the tire wear. A peg-leg burnout where you hold the breaks and smoke a single tire good is hard on the spider gears.