How do I strap my TJ to a trailer?

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Your point does not really address the topic, but I will agree for the most part. One thing that is not going to happen is a broken strap in stop and go traffic no matter what speed you are traveling...never happened and not going to. You may experience a little slack from time to time, but that does not mean you are unsafe. A lot of slack means you have done something wrong. If a strap comes off for any reason that is on you, not the strap...open hooks are just an invitation.

"Plan for the worst; hope for the best".... why not then use a strap method that covers more scenarios?

One of the guys at TJFest two years ago had a hook detach from one of their fairly new name brand ratchets.
 
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I read somewhere that crossing them increases their load tolerance by 32.67%. I only need them to be 100% effective, not 132.67% effective, so I don’t cross them.

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I don't remember, I don't see their posts anymore so kinda forget about them. Makes life more peaceful... but it takes a LOT for me to put someone on ignore.

The recent person is the first person I have ever put on ignore, ever. Unlike others they don't provide the entertainment value.
 

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I keep a pin lock or long shackle Master Lock through the latch on my coupler. I don't expect it to slow a thief down, but I do expect it to stop the casual fucktard from dicking with it.

Yeah, I have that on my trailer now but I used to use my dads and his being homemade he had a weird one that locked on the bottom that he never told me about until I told him what happened. His is a bit odd and even though he’s never had a problem with it in the 47 years he’s had it I used to always check the coupler every time I stopped and then would double check it every time I left. It got me into the habit of always checking which isn’t a bad thing. Even now whenever I leave for anywhere and forget I’ve never made it more than 50 feet before I remember, stop and check
 

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I don't remember, I don't see their posts anymore so kinda forget about them. Makes life more peaceful... but it takes a LOT for me to put someone on ignore.

It still takes a lot for me to do it but what has changed is how fast I can identify what a "lot" is. Some are very convincing with an exceptionally high level of willful ignorance, and it only takes a few posts.
 
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Seems like that would qualify as a "broken strap", no?

These are funny discussions due to the lack of basic thought that gets applied in a critical manner. If I told everyone that was going to tie down their rig to a trailer that all it takes to hold it in place is 4 pieces of steel about 3/16" thick by about 5/8" wide, they would in general tell me I was full of crap. Yet, most would not hesitate to use a twisted hook strap at all four corners to do what I just said would work.

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I've never seen one of those break in that spot but it sure gives one pause to wonder just how much is really needed to keep a rig in place.
 
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doesn't look like it was the steels fault to me. that 1 was born to fail.

those welds are not equal the left edge of that clasp end was broken off and it appears to have been welded well, the break is equal end to end. the right side is poo.....it had very little penetration on both ends it can be seen on the right side of the clasp end and the upper weld on the ratchet. it had just a bit of good weld in the center when that bit gave way it's not hard to bust that second weld over.

if thats american made i'd contact them, thats not a thing they want happening.
 
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3rd use straight pull

Post in thread 'Trailer Tie Down Review, Mac’s Super Pack'
https://wranglertjforum.com/threads/trailer-tie-down-review-mac’s-super-pack.50576/post-877726

That makes no sense whatsoever. I believe the user but still, something bizarre is going on. The edge of the hook show it was basically ripped fully across the weld in the HAZ on both sides. For a straight pull to do that, something is whacked. Fortunately, we don't see that often, in fact, this is the only time I've ever seen anyone post up failed hardware. Just very strange.
 

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doesn't look like it was the steels fault to me. that 1 was born to fail.

those welds are not equal the left edge of that clasp end was broken off and it appears to have been welded well, the break is equal end to end. the right side is poo.....it had very little penetration on both ends it can be seen on the right side of the clasp end and the upper weld on the ratchet. it had just a bit of good weld in the center when that bit gave way it's not hard to bust that second weld over.

if thats american made i'd contact them, thats not a thing they want happening.

Look a bit closer. I think the shadow is throwing you off a bit.
 

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Since you have not read the entire thread I will offer it one more time. 45 degree angles net a 30% reduction. Lesser angles, lesser reduction. Most are likely losing somewhat because you rarely see true 90 degree inline strapping employed on a car trailer. Most quality straps will be well within the safety limits no matter the angle in our usage. If your goal is zero loss then your only recourse is to employ more anchor points...your call.

Life is full of compromises. Angles overlap one another...inline do not.
Where are you getting this from?