How do I strap my TJ to a trailer?

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That makes no sense whatsoever. I believe the user but still, something bizarre is going on. The edge of the hook show it was basically ripped fully across the weld in the HAZ on both sides. For a straight pull to do that, something is whacked. Fortunately, we don't see that often, in fact, this is the only time I've ever seen anyone post up failed hardware. Just very strange.

Yeah, just goes to show things do happen.

This is why you want to reduce dependency on other straps as much as possible.

If that happens in some instances described in this thread, less than ideal results will follow.
 
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Yeah, just goes to show things do happen.

This is why you want to reduce dependency on other straps as much as possible.

If that happens in some instances described in this thread, less than ideal results will follow.

There’s some redundancy in straight strap pulls but even more when securing the tire down and side blocking.
 
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Look a bit closer. I think the shadow is throwing you off a bit.

this is my read.

blue areas had no bite no bridge material, little red gave way and big red had to hold the load and it was broken over by the line of force either binding around a corner like you described or the construction was not really inline and it broke at weakest point in the offset.

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looks like a machine weld to me . they started well in front at the left edge but ended premature and without a filler pause.
 
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this is my read.

blue areas had no bite no bridge material, little red gave way and big red had to hold the load and it was broken over by the line of force either binding around a corner like you described or the construction was not really inline and it broke at weakest point in the offset.

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looks like a machine weld to me . they started well in front at the left edge but ended premature and without a filler pause.

Looks like the pieces weren’t butted together when welded.
 

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this is my read.

blue areas had no bite no bridge material, little red gave way and big red had to hold the load and it was broken over by the line of force either binding around a corner like you described or the construction was not really inline and it broke at weakest point in the offset.

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looks like a machine weld to me . they started well in front at the left edge but ended premature and without a filler pause.

That's a hell of a lot of weld to just break in a straight pull, got to be more to it. I have been using this type of ratchet for a very long time with a chain hook attached to a short chain with a D-ring to attach the ratchet.
 

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Yeah, just goes to show things do happen.

This is why you want to reduce dependency on other straps as much as possible.

If that happens in some instances described in this thread, less than ideal results will follow.
I’ve switched to this style of fixed end with the flat hook.


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That makes no sense whatsoever. I believe the user but still, something bizarre is going on. The edge of the hook show it was basically ripped fully across the weld in the HAZ on both sides. For a straight pull to do that, something is whacked. Fortunately, we don't see that often, in fact, this is the only time I've ever seen anyone post up failed hardware.

Here is a pic of how the strap was used. This is a more recent pic, but the set up is the same.

I always check the straps at every fuel stop. I had driven from Illinois to Utah with no problems. I stopped around Dewey Bridge and everything was fine, but when I got to Moab (about 40 min drive) it was broken.

I have been hauling vehicles for 20+ years, and have never seen anything like this happen before. This was a basically new Mac strap, but must have had some sort of defect.

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We just blocked the wheels in front and back so there was no front to back motion. Then you just need straps to hold it on the trailer when you do jumps and stuff. 😀

If you happen to be using plastic chocks to restrict fore/aft movement, don't. I accidentally pulled my 2k lb trailer over one and smashed it flat like it was never there.
 
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Here is a pic of how the strap was used. This is a more recent pic, but the set up is the same.

I always check the straps at every fuel stop. I had driven from Illinois to Utah with no problems. I stopped around Dewey Bridge and everything was fine, but when I got to Moab (about 40 min drive) it was broken.

I have been hauling vehicles for 20+ years, and have never seen anything like this happen before. This was a basically new Mac strap, but must have had some sort of defect.

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That should have never failed in that configuration, I would have contacted Macs and got his take on it or at least made him aware of it. It is my understanding that he is a standup guy.
 
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That direct hook design is showing it's weakness...much rather have a sewn in design which they also offer. I have never seen a sewn in connection fail...there are no welds.

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i didn't put 2 and 2 together until i zoomed in on that pic above. IDK if i like that hook welded on the ratchet stuff, more a fan of the sewn straps they have been used for billions of miles without much issue if they are kept in good shape.

that had to make your ass jump when that thing went off in your hand.
 

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Rule number 1 check your straps after 10 miles or so. Rule number 2 don't let people borrow your tie downs.

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Rule number 1 check your straps after 10 miles or so. Rule number 2 don't let people borrow your tie downs.

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Don't loan out tie downs or the trailer they go to or with or near. Not sure why folks tear up trailers that don't belong to them but every time I've loaned one even to someone I would normally loan most anything to, it still comes back worse than it left.
 

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Don't loan out tie downs or the trailer they go to or with or near. Not sure why folks tear up trailers that don't belong to them but every time I've loaned one even to someone I would normally loan most anything to, it still comes back worse than it left.

Unfortunately he was the second person this week to borrow my tie downs, and hitch, and trailer.... :cry: They were both Class A drivers as well, the first one needed the TJ too.:rolleyes: I mean so did the second guy but I scared him off by listing its many issues.