What a lot of folks miss is if there is an inherent ride quality improvement with long arms, you shouldn't be able to make them ride poorly and I can do that with a quickness.
How does a mid-arm suspension improve the climbing capabilities from the drivers seat?
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I went through this over and over and over with Matt. He had his frame height too low for 35's under some misguided notion that it was more stable. (in perspective, he was 83" outside of tire to outside of tire. My rig on 40's and a 67" WMS to WMS is 84") He was grinding up everything under the rig dragging it over the rocks in JV. Bumper, frame mounts, body mounts (raised ones no less) aluminum boat sides, belly skid, everything under the rig was just getting beat to shit. He cut off the front and raised the front bumper, steering, and frame to compensate and then shortly thereafter finally put coil overs on with 4" of ride height over stock and it all went away. Had he done that first, there would have been a whole lot less damage, I wouldn't have had to listen to and explain for hours why the rear mounts pretty much have to be the way they are so he would leave them the fuck alone and just fix the real problem.
You need to get the 35's you know you are going to wind up with and go be happy.
Let's substitute my name for his on on some of that. Duly noted and appreciated!
Perhaps that note about raising the front frame for more clearance
I promise to stop calling it out in every thread I see....I’m just looking forward to that being on the short list vs the long
It was an insane amount of work to raise it 2". He is in need of a new custom radiator as well. It was so much work that he said he would never do it again at any price.Perhaps that note about raising the front frame for more clearance
I see the difference between 1.25” and 2” being extremely significant in this case.
2"!! That's waaay too much work! If this ever happens, it will only be back to the stock orientation. But 35s ought to happen first before a few other things. The idea is probably more compelling than the practically.
This thread is full of great information. Really enjoy reading and thinking through a lot of this. Not to derail the conversation but.......as we are discussing short arms, mid arms as long arms, where does genright fall in all this? As I understand savvy’s geometry is set and wheel base cannot be cheated. Genright, seems like a company that has their shit in order. Their suspension brackets, various length of stretch can be achieved (without effecting geometry?). I’ve seen some awesome builds using their legend ext kit. I’d like to hear Blaine’s feed back and thoughts on this.
Every Genright product I have used, except for one, is flawed and not thought through in some way. And their builds are bad once you understand and see more than their flashy pictures.
I don't know the details of their midarm but I have zero desire after I've seen the rest of how they setup their suspension.
I don't know the details of their midarm but I have zero desire after I've seen the rest of how they setup their suspension.
I’m no Blaine, but I can say with certain amounts of confidence that any setup that claims you can lengthen the arms (stretch the axle) without changing the mounting positions is compromising something or full of it. I as well would love to hear your input Blaine
Fit and finish of those fenders that bad? They are on my long list, you talked about it in your build thread but would you get them again?
I'd only buy them again because they're the best available. Don't confuse that with the best that could be.
Just got done reading through the last few pages of your build 1.) great work congrats! 2.) I was very upset to see the amount of altering their product and others just to make it work.
Thank you.
Unfortunately it's not only Genright's products. Nearly every "product" or "kit" I used on the build needed alterations (and not just because I'm applying it to a custom application). Still, for some reason every time I get a kit I say to myself "Ooo! A kit! This will be a fun change of pace." And it somehow ends up being worse than custom fabrication.
A great segway into “honey I need a mill and a lathe to make the Jeep run”
A great segway into “honey I need a mill and a lathe to make the Jeep run”
I got permission for a mill last year but didn't end up going that route and a second garage (or rather "the garage") is on the agenda and making the current garage into "the workshop".