I broke it

That's a fair and square break of a nicely done heat treated axle. The amount of twist in the splines points to it not being too hard and brittle, the fracturing shows that it was pretty tough. If I was selling stronger axles, that's how I'd want to see them break.

Since the heat treat looks correct, could the alloy/material potentially be incorrect for the application?

(Regarding that specific axle)
 
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Does it stand reason this happened all at once or could I have done some prior damage? I can think of times when I was working it harder than Saturday.

Andy I know you think you weren't working it hard when it broke, but you were. Like I said "shock load". You had all 4 tires spinning, when the left rear caught traction.

I was watching and spotting for you.

Something has to give, and usually at least in my industry it's the axle.
 
Andy I know you think you weren't working it hard when it broke, but you were. Like I said "shock load". You had all 4 tires spinning, when the left rear caught traction.

I was watching and spotting for you.

Something has to give, and usually at least in my industry it's the axle.

Well she sure snapped.
 
I have seen loaded tandem axle dump trucks break an axle going up the ridge cut in Chattanooga just because they dropped to a lower gear.

Was Jerry fully locked the entire time?

I’m just asking myself should I work on my engagement strategy

I know I was for sure turning in a tight spot
 
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Was Jerry fully locked the entire time?

I’m just asking myself should I work on my engagement strategy

I know I was for sure turning in a tight spot

Yes he was locked the whole time also.

I don't know of anything you could have done differently. Possibly unlocking the front to make the tight turn, but with mud filled tires and mud/wet rock they weren't fighting your steering, at least it didn't appear they were.
 
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Does it stand reason this happened all at once or could I have done some prior damage? I can think of times when I was working it harder than Saturday.

You might have got some twist in the splines previous but any fractures wouldn't have lasted very long. You were just mean to it and the shock load took it out.
 
Yes he was locked the whole time also.

I don't know of anything you could have done differently. Possibly unlocking the front to make the tight turn, but with mud filled tires and mud/wet rock they weren't fighting your steering, at least it didn't appear they were.

The turn needing to be done tighter would be accomplished by unlocking the rear, not the front and it doesn't sound like that would be an option.
 
The turn needing to be done tighter would be accomplished by unlocking the rear, not the front and it doesn't sound like that would be an option.

No sir where we were, I don't think it would have been.

Dang red clay mud is slicker than grease when wet, and traction is almost non existence.
 
Look how it loads up the tread on rocks.
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Makes it hard to think about traction.

Back when I was running CJ's over here and in this kind of mess we always ran deep lug, wide lug bias ply swampers or Gateway Buckshots.

They were around 28 or 29/32 tread depth and self cleaned easier.
 
OK here is the damage-

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In the process of asking around about a deal on some axles I spoke with the person who runs a shop that is TJ’s only- It’s just a father and son outfit that restores and buys and sells, wheels, etc-


He said he sees a lot of rigs that only have one TenFactory axle and that tells him they bought a pair and broke one-

He’s only ever seen one Revolution axle fail - the jeep was completely rolled and it bent the flange.

Can you post a picture of the face of the axel as if you were looking down the shaft? I want to see a clearer picture of the fracture surface.
 
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Can you post a picture of the face of the axel as if you were looking down the shaft? I want to see a clearer picture of the fracture surface.

This is the best that I have right now-

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Andy I know you think you weren't working it hard when it broke, but you were. Like I said "shock load". You had all 4 tires spinning, when the left rear caught traction.

I was watching and spotting for you.

Something has to give, and usually at least in my industry it's the axle.

That makes sense.not only did that axle have the torque from compound gearing suddenly applied to it but also the Inertia of all the tires and drivetrain to contend with
 
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