I started strong with my water pump / thermostat/belt replacement, and ended weak

Kathy

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my Jeep has been undrivable in one of the nicest weeks of the year due to a failed water pump so I was anxious and motivated to get the new one in along with a new belt and thermostat while I was there. Even though I ordered the wrong belt, questioned the pump I got because it didn’t say REV on the body of it, and have numerous bruises , I tried to persevere. After realizing that my weakness of detail work was glaring me in the face when trying to clean the gasket off the pump and thermostat housing and engine block, I quit. I was able to get everything torn apart, removed, and ran and got the correct belt and different gasket lube, but when I returned, I lost my desire to finish what I started and felt defeated. As much as I wanted to finish , I felt like I was going to break something with my bull in a china shop way of doing things.
I was fortunate I had @Dave K. to fall back on and he finished putting things back together (the easy part).lol. But if it weren’t for him it wouldn’t be done today.
I tried and failed, but I have plenty of other projects to attempt on my Suni. I think it was Blaine that said somewhere that wrenching was easy. Well, I’ll be the first to say that it is not easy! It takes a level of patience and determination when you are new at it that I still don’t have. I think once I learn more about what tools do what, how to hold things without smashing every finger And brusing your entire forearm, and easier ways of doing things it will get better. It’s interesting learning an entire new skill in your 40s. Baby steps , baby steps.

And as I’m typing out this post dave breaks the “ bad news” that he thinks there’s something more wrong and also one of the pump bolts wouldn’t tighten to spec. Only tightened to 15 ft pounds instead of 22. I’m heading out to see what’s going on. Wish me luck.
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My radiator had a cool easy spiket like thing I turned and the coolant drained right out.
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There’s the big bolt I struggled getting loose and the sensor plug I nearly broke trying to disconnect. Dave to the rescue, again .
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Yup, wrong belt. Paid twice the amount for the correct belt at oreillys but it’s replaced and on with a gates brand.

Me at one of the points of frustration needing to take a break.
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Even getting these rubber tubes off was a feat for me until I watched a video that showed an easy way. I have zero common sense when it comes to this. It really helps me understand families I work with and how they can’t get their lives together and do basic life skills. If they were never taught, or exposed, it’s not easy.
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I got it off. Now the cleaning began.
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I had to remove that long piece to install on the new pump. That was one of the only things I was successful at doing alone. Using the vise and kroil helped a bunch.
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Thanks to dave got both all cleaned up. The pic of the thermostat surface was not completed. Dave did more scrubbing .
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The old thermostat which was still good was also a 195. Now I have a spare.
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Here’s what the thermostat surface looked like when I started. Yuck. Scraper, razor blade, wire brush, wire wheel. More scrubbing than I’ve done in the shower for the last month!
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Here’s where I thought I got the wrong pump. Dave reassured it was the same. If anyone begs to differ I would love to know before I ruin my engine.

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It depends Kathy... wrenching on a TJ is easier than it is on most modern vehicles, that's for sure. However, I always dread the jobs that involve coolant or other fluids. It always creates such a mess, that's for sure.

It looks like that water pump is well overdue for replacing!
 
It depends Kathy... wrenching on a TJ is easier than it is on most modern vehicles, that's for sure. However, I always dread the jobs that involve coolant or other fluids. It always creates such a mess, that's for sure.

It looks like that water pump is well overdue for replacing!
Making a Mess is right! I had a large container to catch the coolant but covered it after I drained the radiator because the dogs kept sniffing it like they were gonna drink it so I covered it. Then when I took off the pump, yup, all over the covered container and floor.
But I’m happy to say I think my jeep is in the clear and there was just air in the lines. I just need to figure out why the bolt won’t tork. Dave admitted he broke the first bolt trying to tork it and the replacement that he swears was the same size won’t tork to spec either. It doesn’t look like it’s leaking at this point but am keeping an eye on it.
 
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@Dave K. beat you to it :p
Well, I am Dave’s , but have never been married and never will be. And I’m sure if you talked to Dave my abilities with a wrench are not marriage material ! YET!! If nothing else I’m comic relief for Dave ;).
 
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Hang in there Kathy, it's clear to all you're a tough woman who won't let any of that faze you for long. And so far as one of the bolts not tightening fully, there's at least one bolt position that uses an extra-long bolt. Could the wrong/shorter bolt be in that longer bolt hole? At least IIRC, it's been 5-6 years since I had to replace a water pump.:pesas:
 
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Hang in there Kathy, it's clear to all you're a tough woman who won't let any of that faze you for long. And so far as one of the bolts not tightening fully, there's at least one bolt position that uses an extra-long bolt. Could the wrong/shorter bolt be in that longer bolt hole? At least IIRC, it's been 5-6 years since I had to replace a water pump.:pesas:
Thanks for the encouragement and vote of confidence. I was aware of the longer bolt and told dave about it and he was sure he put the long bolt in the correct hole. I’m just glad it’s running and all put back together:).
 
Once you get the wrenching bug, it becomes a very satisfying pastime. I got my 03 as much for the project as the ride. It is quite rewarding to take a rig in need and turn it into a functioning treasure. I may get another after I complete this one, just because I can. Jeeps are like a blank canvas to express yourself on.
 
Think you have a hard time? Be happy you don't have man sausages for fingers as you try to put a nut back in place.
I do agree with you on that one. I do have an easier time reaching into small spaces. But believe it or not, there’s an art to getting some nuts started and on. Dave seems to be able to do it with his eyes closed and using only one finger. Lol. I always feel like I’m using two right hands.
 
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I'd say you did very good! You tore it apart and got the pipe off the old pump which can be a feat in itself! I'm sure you would have finished it later too :)
 
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Photos of why I recommend investing in the best products.
The comments with the photos explain.
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254,696 mile water pump mount.
Looks like that AMSOIL Heavy-Duty Antifreeze & Coolant stuff really works.

Clyde The Ride's exploratory surgery which found the cost of repair was more than a used engine, so we installed one with 50,000 miles on it.

Photo by Michael Shatto.
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100,000 mile water pump.
Looks like that AMSOIL Heavy-Duty Antifreeze & Coolant stuff really works.

Clyde The Ride's exploratory surgery which found the cost of repair was more than a used engine, so we installed one with 50,000 miles on it.

Photo by Michael Shatto.
 
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