Frame looks good but that’s about it to me. It just boils down to if the conversion look is what you want. You can find a nice rust free LJR that isn’t a conversion, but if the conversion is something you have been searching for that’s the one I’d say.Here are a few more pictures he sent me. He said it has the pro Comp simple 4 inch lift
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CarFax shows it as a Wrangler TJ Unlimited R. Has had 7 owners, was repainted twice. Originally sold in FL.. Why is the Pro Comp lift a negative? Like I said before I'm new to these newer jeeps so learning as I go. Thanks!
A rubicon Sahara? Aren't those really rare?The current owner clearly spent money upgrading this LJ and is asking a high price, IMHO. Yes, some Rubicons(Rubiharas) fetch high $20k, but considering you want a manual, and do not like the conversion, you should pass and pay a premium for the LJR you want. To convert back, including buying a new hardtop will run you about $2k, plus a backseat and a manual tranny. If you plan to drop an a new engine, then no need to pay premium for low mileage.
I would punt on this one and check out ebay and also craigslist. This is a big purchase so keep hunting around.
Here is a 2004 manual with hardtop for $13.9k.
https://nwga.craigslist.org/ctd/d/2004-jeep-wrangler-rubiconall/6525670924.html
I think you are from Tenn, and here is a Rubihara for $15k. Hardtop, but automatic.
https://knoxville.craigslist.org/cto/d/jeep-lj-rubicon-sahara/6489898007.html
Another Rubihara, manual, hardtop, 43k miles and built for offroading.
https://okaloosa.craigslist.org/cto/d/2005-jeep-wrangler-unlimited/6519757301.html
Watch out for posers! People actually put a Rubicon sticker on the hood when it isn't a Rubicon...
https://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/d/2004-jeep-wrangler-unlimited/6524085256.html
Seven owners is a red flag.
Repainted twice is another reg flag
Pro Comp is a house brand for Four Wheel Parts and another red flag to me. Pro Comp lifts are at the bottom of the lift spectrum and do not add value. In my mind a Pro Comp lift decreases value because it will need to be removed and replaced. Moreover, the use of a budget lift suggests that there are no high end modifications and shortcuts may have been taken.
Many of the other accessories shown in the photos are of low quality. Like the Pro Comp lift, they decrease value in my mind.
I think it is way over priced, so much so that I am suspicious of the seller. It is certainly not an LJ that I would go out of my way to look at. Having done my own search of the Western states for the "right" LJ Rubicon, in 2017 and knowing what was out there then, I would pass on this one unless you are looking for a project and the seller comes down about $10,000. There is no way that LJ is worth $23,000.
On the other hand, the Texas LJ in the thread Chris mentioned would be worth traveling to look at.
See: https://wranglertjforum.com/threads/how-much-should-i-ask-for-my-2006-rubicon-unlimited.9490/
A rubicon Sahara? Aren't those really rare?
Seven owners is a red flag.
Repainted twice is another reg flag
Pro Comp is a house brand for Four Wheel Parts and another red flag to me. Pro Comp lifts are at the bottom of the lift spectrum and do not add value. In my mind a Pro Comp lift decreases value because it will need to be removed and replaced. Moreover, the use of a budget lift suggests that there are no high end modifications and shortcuts may have been taken.
Many of the other accessories shown in the photos are of low quality. Like the Pro Comp lift, they decrease value in my mind.
I think it is way over priced, so much so that I am suspicious of the seller. It is certainly not an LJ that I would go out of my way to look at. Having done my own search of the Western states for the "right" LJ Rubicon, in 2017 and knowing what was out there then, I would pass on this one unless you are looking for a project and the seller comes down about $10,000. There is no way that LJ is worth $23,000.
On the other hand, the Texas LJ in the thread Chris mentioned would be worth traveling to look at.
See: https://wranglertjforum.com/threads/how-much-should-i-ask-for-my-2006-rubicon-unlimited.9490/
Good call on dodging it based on 7 owners and two paint jobs (wtf?).Yeah think I'll just keep looking around. There are more out there.... found this one a few min ago. With the money saved I could probably fix it up pretty nice, asking $12,500 for it, has 160k miles. Anyway again thanks for everyone's thoughts on the jeep.
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