Don't misinterpret. They didn't give up without a fight. They pushed the grill over and the fan hit the shroud. The corner of the grill was caved in a bit. He is a member on here. I may point him here and get his version.
This is the trail, this is not the hard spot.
I get that and wasn't thinking they can't take some serious abuse because if they were just folding I would think now one would be running them. There are areas up here that I know am not going to take my Jeep becaue I want to keep it somewhat straight looking. But having flares either permeant or removable are needed up here and not just for street use. I don't mind getting some mud in my face now and then but I like/want some tires coverage.
As I said when I started this thread, I had just not heard anyone talk about the flares bending like that so wanted to ask. Will it stop me from getting a fender with a flare? Nope most likely not unless I can come up with a way to install something removable like the MC flares. And that was why I was looking at them. But because it has been shown what you loose in clearance they are out. I may have to get creative like Toximus is with his rear flares.
I guess the one thing I don't understand is why do the flush/no flare fenders survive but the flare doesn't?