Leaking power steering fluid and replaced steering box, causing engine, air bag and horn issues

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Hey everyone! I'm a bit puzzled here, but I'm hoping to get some help. I recently acquired a 2001 Jeep TJ, and I absolutely love it. after 5 months of driving, I noticed some whining noises and realized there was a major leak. The power steering fluid was almost empty, and the steering box was soaked. I took it to a mechanic who specializes in Jeeps, and he said he had to replace the entire steering box. I found it a bit odd that it wasn't related to fixing the power steering reservoir or pipes, but I didn't question it, since he’s a mechanic that specializes only on jeeps.

After a few hours, he called me to pick it up, but I realized it was still leaking. He said he'd use a replacement steering box and asked me to come back the next day.

The following day, he told me he had fixed the issue but wondered why I hadn't mentioned that my engine light was on. It wasn't on when I dropped off the Jeep. He also mentioned that the airbag light was on, and the horn wasn't working. I'm a bit confused about how any of these are connected to the steering box, and he insists he didn't touch anything else.

He used a sensor and said the Throttle Position Sensor wasn't working, so he replaced it for free. However, the sensor is still showing the same issue (see attached pic). He also hardwired the horn, and it works that way but not when it's plugged in. He believes I need to replace the airbag clock spring, which he says will fix the horn and airbag issues. However, I'm skeptical because the engine light issue continued to appear after he swapped the TPS, so I'm wondering if there's more to it. He also said it could be an issue with the computer. I left it with 1 problem and came out with 3 new ones. Feels more electrical than mechanical and I want to avoid just buying parts if that’s not the issue.

Do you have any ideas about what might be causing these issues? Everything seems a bit suspicious, and I can't help but wonder if he tampered with something. I wanted to get a second opinion before jumping to conclusions. I've attached some photos of the old gearbox and the new one, along with sensor readings. Thanks in advance!

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Hey everyone! I'm a bit puzzled here, but I'm hoping to get some help. I recently acquired a 2001 Jeep TJ, and I absolutely love it. after 5 months of driving, I noticed some whining noises and realized there was a major leak. The power steering fluid was almost empty, and the steering box was soaked. I took it to a mechanic who specializes in Jeeps, and he said he had to replace the entire steering box. I found it a bit odd that it wasn't related to fixing the power steering reservoir or pipes, but I didn't question it, since he’s a mechanic that specializes only on jeeps.

After a few hours, he called me to pick it up, but I realized it was still leaking. He said he'd use a replacement steering box and asked me to come back the next day.

The following day, he told me he had fixed the issue but wondered why I hadn't mentioned that my engine light was on. It wasn't on when I dropped off the Jeep. He also mentioned that the airbag light was on, and the horn wasn't working. I'm a bit confused about how any of these are connected to the steering box, and he insists he didn't touch anything else.

He used a sensor and said the Throttle Position Sensor wasn't working, so he replaced it for free. However, the sensor is still showing the same issue (see attached pic). He also hardwired the horn, and it works that way but not when it's plugged in. He believes I need to replace the airbag clock spring, which he says will fix the horn and airbag issues. However, I'm skeptical because the engine light issue continued to appear after he swapped the TPS, so I'm wondering if there's more to it. He also said it could be an issue with the computer. I left it with 1 problem and came out with 3 new ones. Feels more electrical than mechanical and I want to avoid just buying parts if that’s not the issue.

Do you have any ideas about what might be causing these issues? Everything seems a bit suspicious, and I can't help but wonder if he tampered with something. I wanted to get a second opinion before jumping to conclusions. I've attached some photos of the old gearbox and the new one, along with sensor readings. Thanks in advance!

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Sounds like when he replaced your steering box he also didn’t secure your steering wheel. The free spinning probably broke your clock spring.
 
Another "Jeep Specialist" for the win! 🙄

Like the two above mentioned, it's your clockspring most likely damaged when he replaced the box.
 
If you came in with one problem and left with three, that would be a serious problem for me. I think you need to go to another mechanic if you question his integrity or ability. I could tell you some real horror stories I've had dealing with mechanics. It can get crazy with these mechanics if they think you have bottomless pockets. That's why a lot of the guys here do their own work. You also have to remember what happens when you have a Jeep that maybe wasn't well cared for too. JEEP=Just Empty Every Pocket. GL.
 
RE a fix for the steering,
1) get some degreaser and clean everything really well.
2) get a set of flare nut wrenches and make sure everything is tight. These are bottom of barrel but will serve the purpose. GreatNeck FNW16 16 x 18 Millimeter Flare Nut Wrench, For Brake Line Wrench Set, For Flare Nut Wrench Set, Chrome Plated Drop Forged Steel https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000CMJIBI/?tag=wranglerorg-20
3) drain, ideally not with your wife’s turkey bastor the P/S fluid and refill with the Lucas power steering stop leak
4) give it a week and see if the leak stops.

RE TPS should be lots of threads on how to replace.
 
he had to replace the entire steering box.

After a few hours, he called me to pick it up, but I realized it was still leaking. He said he'd use a replacement steering box and asked me to come back the next day.

So was this two steering box replacements?
 
Thanks for the clock spring tip everyone! Does that solve the TPS, horn and air bag issue simultaneously?
 
If you came in with one problem and left with three, that would be a serious problem for me. I think you need to go to another mechanic if you question his integrity or ability. I could tell you some real horror stories I've had dealing with mechanics. It can get crazy with these mechanics if they think you have bottomless pockets. That's why a lot of the guys here do their own work. You also have to remember what happens when you have a Jeep that maybe wasn't well cared for too. JEEP=Just Empty Every Pocket. GL.

Fair enough - thats the goal once I move out of the apartment complex. Also, lol at the acronym.
 
Trying to track down a new clockspring. Does anyone have any recommendations? I've come across some that say "without cruise control" but mine does. Does this one work: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/...YLTNTdISLp_ummNU4WUDKHxS1zadn_DxoCPpQQAvD_BwE

If you look at the last line, it does say not for vehicles with speed control. Isn't that the same as Cruise control, where you just set the speed, and the Jeep automatically maintains it, until you hit the brakes?

Notes: Not for use in vehicles with speed control.

What you might want to do is to call a dealership and get the OEM part number for the 2001 Wrangler clockspring for cruise control. I am seeing some sites that say the part number is 56009071 and Quadratec is saying the part number is 56047105AB, and that 56009071 won't work. Deadjeep.com is claiming they have a working used one for a 2001 Wrangler with part number 56009071 for cruise control. But, I've had trouble with those guys. I would call the dealership and talk to the parts department and get the correct part number first.
 
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If you look at the last line, it does say not for vehicles with speed control. Isn't that the same as Cruise control, where you just set the speed, and the Jeep automatically maintains it, until you hit the brakes?

Notes: Not for use in vehicles with speed control.

What you might want to do is to call a dealership and get the OEM part number for the 2001 Wrangler clockspring for cruise control. I am seeing some sites that say the part number is 56009071 and Quadratec is saying the part number is 56047105AB, and that 56009071 won't work. Deadjeep.com is claiming they have a working used one for a 2001 Wrangler with part number 56009071 for cruise control. But, I've had trouble with those guys. I would call the dealership and talk to the parts department and get the correct part number first.

Thanks - thats handy! I just called and confirmed the part number: 56047103AB. Most websites list it without cruise control, but I found some on eBay that include speed control. I think I'll go ahead and purchase one from there.
 
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Thanks everyone. I swapped out the clock spring and swapped back to the original TPS. All is well now. Case closed!

For future reference even if you know what you are doing, the first thing you do is bungee the steering wheel to the brake pedal. While you may know you won't reach in and give it a spin, for some reason simply random folks will and have done it which takes out the clock spring.

That also means the mechanic may not have done anything wrong on that side, but someone helped him more than was prudent. However, he isn't off the hook for missing the specific set of symptoms very clearly being related to his work.