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Curiosity got the better of me because I have been looking at the Pat M/Ts too... After scouring Milestar's web site for about an hour, the only thing I came across anywhere mentioning "high-crown carcass" is for the UTV/SxS line up of tires.Unintentionally, I’d like to try a set of Patagonia’s so I’d like to see the info on the design intent.
Incidental. I haven't burned through enough tires to have more than the three sets i've had. So far. That being said, the next set will almost certainly be MTRs.have you had KM2 or KM3's in the past, or if not, is your avoidance of them deliberate or incidental?
All of our forest service trucks here run Patagonias. They are an amazing on and off road tire. Pick up gravel like no other, but bite hard.
I watched @jjvw and @rasband climb the same slick hard rock steep hill with loose dirt and gravel at the peak of the hill, one of them on 35" Patagonia and one on 33" bfg all terrain's. The bfg's climbed the hill with minimal wheel spin making it look easy. The Patagonia couldn't get traction at all, lots of wheel spin, and a few back and forth efforts to get up the hill. I also climbed the same hill with 35" mtr's with little to no wheel spin. I would say the Patagonia's came in a very distant 3rd. The lack of grip on the surface was astounding to watch. After witnessing that first hand I would say get the Patagonia's if you wanted to make your off roading much more challenging due to lack of grip!
...I would say get the Patagonia's if you wanted to make your off roading much more challenging due to lack of grip!
JFC... I think we got the message, there must be a Colorado chapter of the Patagonia Haters Club! lol Whatever conditions you guys encounter on your trails, this is apparently not the right tire for you, so just buy something else and let it go already. However, I've personally tried MTRs, KM2s, KO2s before and on the granite of the Rubicon Trail, the Patagonias hooked up like nothing else at 10 psi.
If I ever go wheelin' in Colorado, I might have to consider using a different tire based on your feedback, but you guys are really going overboard with the bashing on these Patagonias and it's getting a bit ridiculous.
Maybe I got a bad set of these garbage tires.
bwahahaha... you still couldn't help yourself with that last little jab, huh?? lol It's all good man, I get it that you really hate these tires because they definitely didn't work for you, but I'm no shill and I promise you that they worked incredibly well on dry granite boulders on the Rubicon Trail. Maybe just consider the possibility that they *could* work really well for others, even if they didn't for you...
Next you'll tell us how great these tires grip in Moab.