Mystery cylinder misfire (not heatsoak)

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Ok so I'm at my wits end with this. I recently started getting rough idling after long drives and eventually the Jeep through a P0303 misfire. I initially thought it was a heat soak issue as I have had that problem before so I replaced all the injectors, and installed the DEI heat shield. No luck, and the problem has gotten worse. Before I'd have to drive for hours before it was an issue but now I start having misfires and rough idle after twenty minutes of driving.

So far, this is what I've done.

1. I already replaced the injectors, and checked the wiring by using a noid test light.
All injectors are getting power and seem to be pulsing normally. I cannot atleast see any damaged wiring.

2. I also tried replacing the coil rail with another one to see if it resolves the issue. I also pulled all the spark plugs and made sure they looked good and were gapped correctly. They were. I even swapped plugs with cylinder # 2 to see if the misfire follows and it did not.

3. I had a spare camshaft sensor on hand so I tried that too. No luck, same results.

4. I disconnected the O2 sensors as I heard this might cause misfires. No luck, still throwing the code.

5. I compression tested the engine at 160k miles and got perfect numbers. Granted I did not do a leakdown test, and now the Jeep has 188k miles.

The Jeep smells like gas and the misfire issue seems to get worse the longer you drive. Here is the weirdest part. Even though injector #3 is getting power, if I pull the plug off the injector there is no difference in idle. But I replaced the injectors? So I doubt that one is bad. What does this indicate? I know usually when you pull the plug and there is no difference in idle that means the injector is bad, but I've already replaced them?
 
New parts can still be bad. Doesn’t happen a lot but does happen from time to time.

Also, spark plugs can look fine and still be bad. I’ve even seen brand new spark plugs bad right out of the box…although it’s rare. Replace all your plugs to rule that out. After replacing the plugs, if it’s still doing it, do like the poster above recommended and swap injectors.
 
Honestly, I think I'm going to take it into the shop on Monday. I replaced the spark plugs about 10k miles ago with the iridium tipped Autolite ones. I don't really feel like throwing parts at it anymore hoping something will work. I haven't swapped the injectors yet, but interestingly enough, on cold start this morning it wasn't misfiring. Ran normally.

I pulled the connector for the third injector again and this time, it made a difference while idling. I think this might be some sort of loose connection, or some chaffed wiring grounding itself out. Maybe when I checked with the noid light, it just happened to be working right. Regardless, I'm a little fed up so I think I'll just suck it up and pay someone $120 or so to figure it out for me.
 
If a shop can diagnose and repair your issue for $120 that's a bargain. I think you should be prepared for something much higher though.

Have you cleaned the IAC and checked for vacuum leaks? These are typical causes of a rough idle. Also a defective throttle position sensor. I know you are fed up and heading to a shop but these are some pretty easy things to check first.

Regardless of what you choose to do please keep us updated to assist other members who may run into the same issue.
 
I chased a po303 and rough idle that I thought was heat soak based on what I had read. Shielding the fuel rail and injectors didn’t fix it.

Ended up being fixed by a Wranglerfix PCM. Haven’t had the issue since.
 
If a shop can diagnose and repair your issue for $120 that's a bargain. I think you should be prepared for something much higher though.

Have you cleaned the IAC and checked for vacuum leaks? These are typical causes of a rough idle. Also a defective throttle position sensor. I know you are fed up and heading to a shop but these are some pretty easy things to check first.

Regardless of what you choose to do please keep us updated to assist other members who may run into the same issue.

Replaced the throttle position sensor recently but didn't actually check it. I did clean the IAC but didn't check for vacuum leaks. Anyways I did drop it off today, I'm not expecting them to fix anything but I know they charge an hour of labor for a diag, that's all I really want. Regardless, I will keep everyone here updated. It is very demotivating seeing others have the same issue as me, they post a thread and then they just disappear and never follow up.
 
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I chased a po303 and rough idle that I thought was heat soak based on what I had read. Shielding the fuel rail and injectors didn’t fix it.

Ended up being fixed by a Wranglerfix PCM. Haven’t had the issue since.

That is what I'm wondering. I actually replaced my PCM with a WranglerFix May of last year. But it does almost seem like a PCM issue potentially. I gave them a call yesterday and told them I'd ship mine over to them if the shop finds nothing today.
 
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Replaced the throttle position sensor recently but didn't actually check it. I did clean the IAC but didn't check for vacuum leaks. Anyways I did drop it off today, I'm not expecting them to fix anything but I know they charge an hour of labor for a diag, that's all I really want. Regardless, I will keep everyone here updated. It is very demotivating seeing others have the same issue as me, they post a thread and then they just disappear and never follow up.

Lack of follow up is not unique to this forum. It’s everywhere
 
Hmm. Interested to hear the results. With it being a 2006, I'm assuming it's a PCM issue. The older these things get, the more capacitors are going to be leaking. I wonder how the 03-04 PCM/TCM will hold up.
 
It looks like my misfire is a top end engine issue unfortunately. Did a compression test and all cylinders except the third were between the 160-180psi range after 8 cranks with the third cylinder being 145 psi. After adding a little oil in, it went up to 160 psi.
 
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