New Truck Discussion

[suicideking]

NTF strikes every few months.

I have a loaded 2018 CC/LB Colorado Z-71 I bought new.....IIRC, I paid around $37k for it. It's got 70~ish thousand miles on it, and has averaged 20mpg over its lifetime. Chevy's decided that midsized truck owners no longer need a 6' bed, so if/when it gets replaced, it won't be with a new Colorado.

Problem for me is that I need 4WD and at least a 6' bed. That leaves the Taco and the Frontier as my only midsized options. I won't own another Nissan, so that leaves the Taco, and man Toyota's proud of those things. Going to a full-sized truck means a Ram, and while they're great trucks, I'm at $60k to duplicate what I have now, and get no better mileage (and have to deal with driving and parking a full-size truck).

I drive maybe 5-6,000 miles a year in the truck anymore (TJ and company vehicle as well), so my Colorado will easily and economically last another 10 years. I can't see spending the money on something that doesn't gain me anything.

A friend of mine got a used Colorado a few months ago. He also wanted the 6' bed, so ended up flying to pick it up and drove 8 hours home. He's been happy with his as well.

Regarding the Tacoma, the only positive things I'm seeing are they are reliable. Though people hate the auto trans and seating position. I haven't test driven one, but don't know if I will bother. They look good, but end up costing similar to an F150 or RAM. The 4Runner has the same bad transmission. At least the Tundra got a refresh recently.

 

['05Train]

A friend of mine got a used Colorado a few months ago. He also wanted the 6' bed, so ended up flying to pick it up and drove 8 hours home. He's been happy with his as well.

Regarding the Tacoma, the only positive things I'm seeing are they are reliable. Though people hate the auto trans and seating position. I haven't test driven one, but don't know if I will bother. They look good, but end up costing similar to an F150 or RAM. The 4Runner has the same bad transmission. At least the Tundra got a refresh recently.

The 2024 Taco fixes all the things that were wrong with the older one other than price. And you can still get a stick in most trims.

 

[Viking Jeeper]

The 2015 GMC 1500 I just sold with 99k on it never had a bit of issues after blowing the a/c compressor when it was pretty much brand new. 8 1/2 years, my best vehicle ever. I dont need a truck daily so I sold it then ordered a new GMC.

 

[tworley]

GM's 10 speed (same trans as in the Ford) seem solid.

My dad has 22 Silverado 2500 with a duramax. I haven't driven it much but the 10 spd does feel really nice. I pulled a 16' flatbed with a SxS on it (light load in reality) but the truck wasn't hunting gears or struggling. Just point and go. I really liked it.

I am not in the market for a truck (I wish I was ) but if I was, I would be looking at either Chevy/GMC or Ram in a 3/4 ton version.

 

[suicideking]

The 2024 Taco fixes all the things that were wrong with the older one other than price. And you can still get a stick in most trims.

Looks like they replaced the V6 with a hybrid 4 cylinder 2.4 Turbo and the trans is now an 8 speed. Probably much better, though I never trust anything during the first year. So might test drive it, but probably pass.

 

[CreepinDeth]

First

Do not believe EPA ratings, as theyre BS rated
Goto Fuelly.com and read real world MPG
I can tell you my F150 is a 3.5TT rated for 15/21 mpg that I bought brand new

I have never gotten anywhere near 21mpg highway
I averaged 16.9mpg on a 3,000 mile road trip doing 70-75mph
Mine is a 4x4 Supercrew with the 3.73 aggressive gearing tho

I average 13mpg around town
Yes some guys get better, depends on your package and gearing

Something I literally just discovered this past week is Ford did NOT recommend a plow on an EcoBoost of my generation. People have done it, but Ford explicity said not to

 

[NskLJ]

First

Do not believe EPA ratings, as theyre BS rated
Goto Fuelly.com and read real world MPG
I can tell you my F150 is a 3.5TT rated for 15/21 mpg that I bought brand new

I have never gotten anywhere near 21mpg highway
I averaged 16.9mpg on a 3,000 mile road trip doing 70-75mph
Mine is a 4x4 Supercrew with the 3.73 aggressive gearing tho

I average 13mpg around town
Yes some guys get better, depends on your package and gearing

Are you running bigger tires?

 

[trojandawg]

First

Do not believe EPA ratings, as theyre BS rated
Goto Fuelly.com and read real world MPG
I can tell you my F150 is a 3.5TT rated for 15/21 mpg that I bought brand new

I have never gotten anywhere near 21mpg highway
I averaged 16.9mpg on a 3,000 mile road trip doing 70-75mph
Mine is a 4x4 Supercrew with the 3.73 aggressive gearing tho

I average 13mpg around town
Yes some guys get better, depends on your package and gearing

Something I literally just discovered this past week is Ford did NOT recommend a plow on an EcoBoost of my generation. People have done it, but Ford explicity said not to

Wow. I get around 18 back and forth to work. I've seen up to 24 on longer trips (6-7 hour vacation trips). I have a 22 model 3.5 4x4 supercrew with the 10 speed and 3.55 rear. Factory setup and tires still. Sticker says 18/23.

 

[PNW_LJ]

Don't get a JT if you're not going to use it like a Jeep.

The Gladiator is a compromise between a truck and a jeep, and like most compromises, it's mediocre at everything, great at nothing.

 

[Apparition]

First

Do not believe EPA ratings, as theyre BS rated
Goto Fuelly.com and read real world MPG
I can tell you my F150 is a 3.5TT rated for 15/21 mpg that I bought brand new

I have never gotten anywhere near 21mpg highway
I averaged 16.9mpg on a 3,000 mile road trip doing 70-75mph
Mine is a 4x4 Supercrew with the 3.73 aggressive gearing tho

I average 13mpg around town
Yes some guys get better, depends on your package and gearing

Something I literally just discovered this past week is Ford did NOT recommend a plow on an EcoBoost of my generation. People have done it, but Ford explicity said not to

My ‘13 3.5 ecoboost F150 crew cab off-road package fully loaded (heavy and not aluminum body) and 3.55’s would get low 20’s easily the sweet spot was 63 mph.

80 mph interstate was 18-20 mpg.

City traffic 16-17.

Then it blew up.

 

[Viking Jeeper]

My ‘13 3.5 ecoboost F150 crew cab off-road package fully loaded (heavy and not aluminum body) and 3.55’s would get low 20’s easily the sweet spot was 63 mph.

80 mph interstate was 18-20 mpg.

City traffic 16-17.

Then it blew up.

Speed is the key. If I stay at 60 or so I get 23 ish. Did it for a whole day, couple hundred miles about 10 stops for work. Mixed interstate down to neighborhoods. Regular FL interstate driving 75-80+ gets 16, maybe.

 

[downthepines]

I have a 2008 Tundra and bought a 2023 Tundra TRD PRO. Hope the new one is as good as the old one but I doubt it. 583 lbs of torque is awesome. I can't bring myself to sell the old one though. I have had it 17 years almost and its been perfect. I would highly recommend a 2007 -2021. That generation of truck is legenerdary.

 

[tworley]

Wow. I get around 18 back and forth to work. I've seen up to 24 on longer trips (6-7 hour vacation trips). I have a 22 model 3.5 4x4 supercrew with the 10 speed and 3.55 rear. Factory setup and tires still. Sticker says 18/23.

My ‘13 3.5 ecoboost F150 crew cab off-road package fully loaded (heavy and not aluminum body) and 3.55’s would get low 20’s easily the sweet spot was 63 mph.

80 mph interstate was 18-20 mpg.

My 12 5.0 is similar. 3.55 gears, 275/70 tires and I can get 20 mpg pretty consistently on the highway even factoring in the 4% error due to my tire size. The 40-mile round trip to work and back is around 17 mpg.

 

[CreepinDeth]

Are you running bigger tires?

Factory truck, no mods

Only thing it went in for was the timing chain “clatter” at start up it had from day 1 that got fixed at 58,000 free under warranty. It never bothered me, but a Ford hookup I had at a dealer told me to bring it in or it could fail

Now at 63,000 my steering rack is toast and thats about $1500. Cheapest online is $750 ish plus my labor or payin a shop.

Truck eats brakes and tires too
32,000 front and rear nrakes were toast
Tires were toast at around 38,000

No major hauling or towing
Its a spare winter vehicle for us that I really should have sold in the Plandemic

 

[NashvilleTJ]

I have a 2008 Tundra and bought a 2023 Tundra TRD PRO. Hope the new one is as good as the old one but I doubt it. 583 lbs of torque is awesome. I can't bring myself to sell the old one though. I have had it 17 years almost and its been perfect. I would highly recommend a 2007 -2021. That generation of truck is legenerdary.

Which engine is pulling 583 foot pounds?

 

[suicideking]

Don't get a JT if you're not going to use it like a Jeep.

The Gladiator is a compromise between a truck and a jeep, and like most compromises, it's mediocre at everything, great at nothing.

I know it's not the best choice. Not going to wheel it since I have my LJ. Just like Jeeps and that the top can come off. Also like that some models (most interested in the Mojave) come with 33's and you can run 35's with no lift.

Probably end up with a RAM 1500 or F150. Looking like price wise, the F150 2.7 is similar to the RAM with the V8, so leaning towards the RAM. I'd get an F150 with the 3.5, but looks like those would cost $5K+ more than the RAM with similar equipment. I like my wife's 3.5 Expedition, but not going to pay $5K or so more for it.

 

[suicideking]

First

Do not believe EPA ratings, as theyre BS rated
Goto Fuelly.com and read real world MPG
I can tell you my F150 is a 3.5TT rated for 15/21 mpg that I bought brand new

I have never gotten anywhere near 21mpg highway
I averaged 16.9mpg on a 3,000 mile road trip doing 70-75mph
Mine is a 4x4 Supercrew with the 3.73 aggressive gearing tho

I average 13mpg around town
Yes some guys get better, depends on your package and gearing

Something I literally just discovered this past week is Ford did NOT recommend a plow on an EcoBoost of my generation. People have done it, but Ford explicity said not to

I figure they measure the mileage with minimum acceleration. The faster you accelerate, the more gas you're going to burn. Plus for highway miles, I figure they measure at exactly the speed limit or less.

I will check on fuelly.com. Looks like a good site to reference.

 

[suicideking]

My ‘13 3.5 ecoboost F150 crew cab off-road package fully loaded (heavy and not aluminum body) and 3.55’s would get low 20’s easily the sweet spot was 63 mph.

80 mph interstate was 18-20 mpg.

City traffic 16-17.

Then it blew up.

What happened with yours exactly?

 

[RINC]

What happened with yours exactly?

 

[Apparition]

What happened with yours exactly?

Lost all oil pressure doing 80 mph pulling a trailer on I35. 90,000 miles. Replaced the engine.

Lost the transmission in Moab at 120,000.

Said goodbye to it after that.

Only Ford I’ve ever owned that had any significant issues.

Really loved the truck before all that though.