Nothing is more American than bloat

[Chris]

I mean how did we go from this:

To this:

This is of course a rhetorical question, as I understand how (and why) it happened obviously. But still, it's sort of the same as going from this:

To this:

 

[ejay]

Lol!

I think it's fair to say those aren't the same vehicles. That's not to say cutting the roof off a Renegade would make up for it.

BTW is that dude for real or is that a suit?

 

[L J]

Jeep's typical owner went from this:

to this:

 

[psrivats]

It's always fun to see the Willys comparison photos each generation.

 

[mots]

Strangely, I dig both. However, without the original there would be no today's model. That said, the TJ is still the Goldilocks version of them all

 

[Airjunky]

I get the point. But watching any of the videos online of a Willys run at Moab, they get around, but its far from the same trip.

 

[Apparition]

I get the point. But watching any of the videos online of a Willys run at Moab, they get around, but its far from the same trip.

Hell, Moab is mostly UTV’s now

 

[Chris]

Hell, Moab is mostly UTV’s now

That's true. RZRs perform amazing off-road.

 

[bedhed]

Wasn't expecting that last picture. You've gotta warn a brother ahead of time.

I feel like it's slowly become a combination of this

Jeep's typical owner went from this:
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to this:

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And the apparent obsession with safety. Safety is overrated.

Next up: Helmets!

 

[Airjunky]

Hell, Moab is mostly UTV’s now

Could be. I really have only been watching the jeeps.

 

[bedhed]

That's true. RZRs perform amazing off-road.

I watched something on YouTube or Netflix recently. Cannot recall the details, but they were doing a (questionable) comparison between the Willy's Jeep and a RZR. The experiment was heavily biased, but it had me thinking. I swear, the way these UTVs are being built, it seems like they could easily become what the CJ, YJ, and TJ were at their time. Less bloat.

 

[Apparition]

Could be. I really have only been watching the jeeps.

So was I and they were few and far between other than Jeep testing a line of diesels. Mostly UTV’s on my ass waiting to pass.

 

[Midwest]

A bunch of my buddies have RZRs. You could put a lot of mods into a TJ for the price of a stock RZR, and they don't stay stock for long.

 

[KimsJeep]

I always have to laugh at how many people like the 4 door Jeeps over the 2 door. Not meaning to dis them or anything by no means, but I just came from a time 4 doors were not in style. That was a grandma car. LOL Now they are all the rage! LOL

 

[TJ2]

This front end is so ugly and is a disgrace imo

there is nothing jeep about this

and look at this shit

a snorkel for mall crawlers?

 

[Airjunky]

A bunch of my buddies have RZRs. You could put a lot of mods into a TJ for the price of a stock RZR, and they don't stay stock for long.

Tough to drive a Rzr to work on a nice summer day. The dog doesn't fit in it very well. Plus I'd need a trailer and a tow rig. Already had ATVs, don't really need another

 

[TJ2]

Jeep Wrangler JL they called it a "car" (to avoid)

The classic, athletic Wrangler might be beloved by Jeep fans, but it gets no love from Consumer Reports, which lists it as the worst two-row mid-sized SUV of the year. In 2014, CR deemed it the "worst value" in its category, noting that the Wrangler was "hard-riding, ponderous, uncomfortable and unreliable." And during graduation season 2018, Jalopnik posted an essay on why the Jeep Wrangler is a terrible idea for a teen's first car, as the car is particularly unsafe when piloted by an inexperienced driver.

With all of these considerations, plus two recent recalls, the Wrangler certainly seems like a car to avoid.

 

[E1320]

For some reason the 4 door always bothered me, probably because I'm old. I have to agree with the TJ being the Goldilocks. I've come close to buying a 2 door JK to daily a couple times, but always back out at the last minute, usually after opening the hood.

 

[Apparition]

For some reason I want to buy a JKU or JLU to add to the stable.

Then add tons, 40’s and an LS.

 

[E1320]

For some reason I want to buy a JKU or JLU to add to the stable.

Then add tons, 40’s and an LS.

My ex had a lifted JKU on 35s it reminded me of driving an old Full Size Cherokee Chief. Nothing CJ about it.