Reunited and it feels so good - Inca Gold TJ Rubicon suspension recommendations

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Hey Gang!

5 years ago I sold my Inca Gold 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon and I have missed it ever since. Ive owned a lot of vehicles, but always felt like this one was the one that got away. I sold my 2024 JLUR because I just could get on with the massive screen and other unnecessary tech and the day it was picked up, the person I sold my beloved Inca Gold Ruby reached back out and said, "I promised if I ever sold it, you could get first dibs." Within an hour I was at the bank and packing up a rental car to drive 7 hours each way to pick it up.

She's sitting right at 74k miles now. The PO added some pretty ugly wheels and the suspension is getting tired (current Rock Krawler 2.5 inch) so I am planning on doing a nice refresh on it. I plan to wheel it, but mostly on easy family friendly trails here in the southeast. Im not going to be bouncing it off rocks in the Southwest and absolutely would like the straightest, most comfortable on road manners possible. Ive lifted plenty of vehicles and know my way around a garage as a hobbyist, but any technical welding will be handled by my local shop should I go long arm.

Im willing to invest good money. I know the Savvy is a REALLY well put together kit. My shop said it calls for 32 hours of labor for install, which is a little crazy, and probably not far off of a complex long arm kit. It's been a long time since I dove into TJ specific upgrades, would a long arm still offer the best on road manners? I ran Clayton Offroad on my JLUR and enjoyed it. It looks like they have a long arm kit that stretches the wheelbase 5 inches, which I assume would offer a more comfortable on road experience.

What do you all think? Any other recommendations? Are the kits im referring TOTAL overkill for light to medium difficulty trails? Any specific kit known for its on road manners while still handling trails well? Any and all input welcomed.

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Most on here are gonna steer you away from a long arm kit. Savvy / Currie (Rockjock) short arm kits are going to be some of the best for the money. Savvy has a mid arm kit that is generally the gold standard around here, but it is probably way overkill for what you intend to use it for.
 
Hey Gang!

5 years ago I sold my Inca Gold 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon and I have missed it ever since. Ive owned a lot of vehicles, but always felt like this one was the one that got away. I sold my 2024 JLUR because I just could get on with the massive screen and other unnecessary tech and the day it was picked up, the person I sold my beloved Inca Gold Ruby reached back out and said, "I promised if I ever sold it, you could get first dibs." Within an hour I was at the bank and packing up a rental car to drive 7 hours each way to pick it up.

She's sitting right at 74k miles now. The PO added some pretty ugly wheels and the suspension is getting tired (current Rock Krawler 2.5 inch) so I am planning on doing a nice refresh on it. I plan to wheel it, but mostly on easy family friendly trails here in the southeast. Im not going to be bouncing it off rocks in the Southwest and absolutely would like the straightest, most comfortable on road manners possible. Ive lifted plenty of vehicles and know my way around a garage as a hobbyist, but any technical welding will be handled by my local shop should I go long arm.

Im willing to invest good money. I know the Savvy is a REALLY well put together kit. My shop said it calls for 32 hours of labor for install, which is a little crazy, and probably not far off of a complex long arm kit. It's been a long time since I dove into TJ specific upgrades, would a long arm still offer the best on road manners? I ran Clayton Offroad on my JLUR and enjoyed it. It looks like they have a long arm kit that stretches the wheelbase 5 inches, which I assume would offer a more comfortable on road experience.

What do you all think? Any other recommendations? Are the kits im referring TOTAL overkill for light to medium difficulty trails? Any specific kit known for its on road manners while still handling trails well? Any and all input welcomed.

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Come wheeling with us on Saturday.

 
Go slow and really be skeptical of shop recommendations- the collective experience here is far more relevant.

Wheel with some of these guys and see their lifts-

I have a TJR on a 2” ome/clayton short arm lift and a 1.25”body lift and mild tummy tuck - it has amazed me -
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It drives so good-

My LJR is a 4” Savvy short arm and 1.25” body lift - and full tummy tuck. If it won’t climb it I’ll just go home.

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A long arm solves no problems, the lesser arc theory is laughable at low speed. The quality of the connections, the axle geometry (caster) and toe are the critical components, provided you have good tires.


Congrats on getting it back, sounds like fate.
 
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Come wheeling with us on Saturday.


Sounds like a blast! This weekend I am on kid duty while my wife is traveling. But next time, count me in!
 
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Most on here are gonna steer you away from a long arm kit. Savvy / Currie (Rockjock) short arm kits are going to be some of the best for the money. Savvy has a mid arm kit that is generally the gold standard around here, but it is probably way overkill for what you intend to use it for.

Yeah the mid travel may be overkill and the 32 hour install time seems crazy. The short arm kit I can install in my garage fairly easily since it doesn't require any welding. That may be the best approach. But geez, their short arm kit is almost the same price as their mid travel!
 
Go slow and really be skeptical of shop recommendations- the collective experience here is far more relevant.

Wheel with some of these guys and see their lifts-

I have a TJR on a 2” ome/clayton short arm lift and a 1.25”body lift and mild tummy tuck - it has amazed me - View attachment 544828View attachment 544829


It drives so good-

My LJR is a 4” Savvy short arm and 1.25” body lift - and full tummy tuck. If it won’t climb it I’ll just go home.

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A long arm solves no problems, the lesser arc theory is laughable at low speed. The quality of the connections, the axle geometry (caster) and toe are the critical components, provided you have good tires.


Congrats on getting it back, sounds like fate.

These are both killer looking rigs!
 
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These are both killer looking rigs!

Thanks, I’m as addicted as it gets. Stay on here, yours is a nice one in a rare color.

Incidentally anyone know the rarest color? Chili Pepper Red on a Rubicon is said to be the lowest color produced.

I’ve only seen pics of one. Gorgeous.
 
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Thanks, I’m as addicted as it gets. Stay on here, yours is a nice one in a rare color.

Incidentally anyone know the rarest color? Chili Pepper Red on a Rubicon is said to be the lowest color produced.

I’ve only seen pics of one. Gorgeous.

I don't think they did chili pepper red other than 1998 and 1999, did they? If so, the two (chili pepper red and rubicon) cannot co-exist from the factory. So, yeah, Very low production numbers...like Zero.
 
I don't think they did chili pepper red other than 1998 and 1999, did they? If so, the two (chili pepper red and rubicon) cannot co-exist from the factory. So, yeah, Very low production numbers...like Zero.

Maybe I’m looking at another color or a repainted rig- really pretty
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I’m not sure what the rarest color is, but they only made 212 Inca Gold Rubicons and the color was only available in 2003, so that’s pretty darn rare!
 
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I’m not sure what the rarest color is, but they only made 212 Inca Gold Rubicons and the color was only available in 2003, so that’s pretty darn rare!

This must have been a gold mine then.... I passed it up, seemed like it was hiding some rust and looked like it had a fresh clean re-spray.
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Just for a reference and a visual, here is a 4" Terraflex long arm on 35's. Since upgrading the steering it tracks great going down the road. (That is Great for a lifted TJ with less than 17K original miles).
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Hey Gang!

5 years ago I sold my Inca Gold 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon and I have missed it ever since. Ive owned a lot of vehicles, but always felt like this one was the one that got away. I sold my 2024 JLUR because I just could get on with the massive screen and other unnecessary tech and the day it was picked up, the person I sold my beloved Inca Gold Ruby reached back out and said, "I promised if I ever sold it, you could get first dibs." Within an hour I was at the bank and packing up a rental car to drive 7 hours each way to pick it up.

She's sitting right at 74k miles now. The PO added some pretty ugly wheels and the suspension is getting tired (current Rock Krawler 2.5 inch) so I am planning on doing a nice refresh on it. I plan to wheel it, but mostly on easy family friendly trails here in the southeast. Im not going to be bouncing it off rocks in the Southwest and absolutely would like the straightest, most comfortable on road manners possible. Ive lifted plenty of vehicles and know my way around a garage as a hobbyist, but any technical welding will be handled by my local shop should I go long arm.

Im willing to invest good money. I know the Savvy is a REALLY well put together kit. My shop said it calls for 32 hours of labor for install, which is a little crazy, and probably not far off of a complex long arm kit. It's been a long time since I dove into TJ specific upgrades, would a long arm still offer the best on road manners? I ran Clayton Offroad on my JLUR and enjoyed it. It looks like they have a long arm kit that stretches the wheelbase 5 inches, which I assume would offer a more comfortable on road experience.

What do you all think? Any other recommendations? Are the kits im referring TOTAL overkill for light to medium difficulty trails? Any specific kit known for its on road manners while still handling trails well? Any and all input welcomed.

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Family friendly trails. Drives nice.

Sounds like a 33 inch tire would be good for your final tire size.

Long arm plus crappy shocks equal crappy ride.
Long arm plus good shocks equal good ride.
Short arm plus crappy shocks equal crappy ride.
Short arm plus good shocks equal good ride.

Length of arms class over. Any questions?

It wouldn’t be a bad idea to stretch some. But really, not necessary in your case, and if you’re not moving the arch, then you’re just losing travel.

There’s no reason to have a shop do anything that you need. And if it takes them 32 hours, they’re way slower than I am.

Get a nice 4 inch, short arm lift with good shocks. Do everything right and it will be great…

PS, don’t change the steering geometry. Stay away from kits. No, if you didn’t figure it out, by now you don’t need a long arm.
 
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I’m not sure what the rarest color is, but they only made 212 Inca Gold Rubicons and the color was only available in 2003, so that’s pretty darn rare!

Jeep also on used Inca gold for 6 months. It's one of the rarest colors, I've owned mine since new.

In person I've seen 6 others. 3 in Europe. And 3 in the US
 
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