School me on mid-arm vs long-arm
- Thread starter Rock Toy
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The real question I have, is do they require a BL?
That will tell some.
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Well then I guess that I won't be winning KOH or becoming Ride of the Month then
. How dare I think that I can build my own system and not just buy the best one out there!!!
Well then I guess that I won't be winning KOH or becoming Ride of the Month then
Do you understand what the difference is?
No offense, I’m all for creativity but why reinvent the wheel especially one that is proven?Well then I guess that I won't be winning KOH or becoming Ride of the Month then
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Don't let them get to you. Haters gonna hate. The project you are about to undertake is pretty massive. My advice is take your time, tac things in place and cycle everything, problems will present themselves, and there WILL be problems. Fix accordingly. tac in place again and cycle again. repeat. Do not get in a hurry. Mostly have fun with it, and keep the mindset that its okay to cut the whole thing off and start again. If you wanted easy just buy the savvy kit and be done with it. remember a few posts back before I sent this tread on the suspension frequency tangent? Roll steer? that's why those brackets are not ideal. There will be lots of compromises because they were not made for a TJ. Your 4 link calculator will likely have Roll Steer figured in. Do you know what rear steer is? If not, no big deal, something else to research. You're probably better off making your own brackets. When you are all done, you will have something special. It's not going to be as good as the Savvy mid-arm, but it will be something you can be proud of. If you are good with this reality, then full speed ahead.Well then I guess that I won't be winning KOH or becoming Ride of the Month then
Looking forward to seeing what you build.
Let us not forget what Socratic questioning got Socrates.
I know what that is. Not gonna fool me.
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Nice to see that there are folks on here that are reasonable and not running around trying to prove that they are the smartest with every post. I really don't care what he says. I have been building shit-boxes since before he knew which way was up. I am 100% aware that I'm not a race truck fabricator but I have built and driven well over 20 trucks to and on the Rubicon, Fordyce, Moonrocks, JV and a few other spots between here and there. None have won any competitions but every one has been fun. This one will probably hop a little on climbs and maybe it will be a little unstable on side-hills but that's what wheeling is. I've laid trucks on their side and rolled them over and then cut the roof off and driven home wearing ski goggles. I'm a little older now and a little wiser but I'm still down for a good time.
That being said, this place is clearly not for me. Blaine is the man and Jerry has a picture of himself hi-centered. Have fun with your discussions, guys. I'm out. I've got work to do.
I, for one, will be sorry if @Rock Toy goes. He asked some good questions and I learned something about spring frequency in the short time he has been a member.
Sometimes, forums or the internet is t for everyone. I’ve seen people come and go over the years and sometimes you bounce until you find “home”. I took a 10 year break from forums and any form of social media, it did me good.
I too learned some good thing here and had nothing to provide to this discussion.
Best of luck @Rock Toy, you sound like an interesting guy who has done some things.
Wouldn’t survive on pirateSometimes, forums or the internet is t for everyone. I’ve seen people come and go over the years and sometimes you bounce until you find “home”. I took a 10 year break from forums and any form of social media, it did me good.
I too learned some good thing here and had nothing to provide to this discussion.
Best of luck @Rock Toy, you sound like an interesting guy who has done some things.
Sad to see you go man @Rock Toy
No reason to run off. This place has some great people and great info. I've been on jeepforum, wranglerforum, pirate, etc. None can hold a candle to the volume of info and level of interaction here.
Lots of different personalities here. The internet isn't always the best way to determine someone's true personality or tone in the way they speak.
I read, absorb, research, and question what I want to take away from here. If I like what I hear I go forward. If not, it's no big deal, I'll do more research. At the end of the day, it's my Jeep, my build, and my money.
No, you are correct... Well, I don't know about the passenger car vs the F1 bit.
In my opinion spring frequency on our wranglers might be a fun discussion, but it's purely academic. The suspension on a Jeep is very complicated. When you hit a bump, what happens? First the tires compress (they have a natural frequency too) and absorb some energy. (That's why lower tire pressures are recommended as a fix to a harsh ride). The force then transfers to the spring. The spring compresses and absorbs most of the rest of the force. We also have force transmission through the control arm joints (remember that discussion?) and finally into the seat where you feel whatever is left in your rear end.
That's the simple version. When you realize that even the steel of the frame and axle absorb that force, compress and rebound, just like a spring (albeit on a much smaller scale), the whole system is very complex and nearly impossible to model.
So... What is the frequency of a spring? It really doesn't matter... Because you can always add a damper to control that frequency.