At this point the 392 is a flagship model. Like the hellcat its purpose is likely to get people into the showroom to buy the lower trim models. Until the epa says absolutely no v8s they'll likely take the fines and push the cost on to the customer. Like the gas guzzler tax. (Not sure if thats a thing outside ca)
To be fair, Ford has been saying this for a long time...
The US autobase has high demand for V8 rigs, especially ones that can push 20 MPG. I think we are going to see more V8 hybrids to help comply with EPA fuel mileage and emissions requirements. Additionally, I don't doubt that you'll see the EPA lobbied to have their emissions testing methods revised (it's already happening on the industrial side).
75k for one may be cheap then if they're only going to be around a few years before the EPA pulls the plug. Buy one now and store it in a barnYep, I've seen that about the Raptor. But I also see the writing on the wall. They'll probably keep pushing the envelope until it just doesn't work anymore, but I see that being far sooner than some might imagine. Let's hope it's not the case, but with the way things are going...
In the meantime, I'll let all you rich assholes buy this 75k Jeep and just live vicariously through you
To be fair, Ford has been saying this for a long time...
And then last year released a new 7.3L V8
They are coming out with a 3.0 turbo straight 6 soon.75k for one may be cheap then if they're only going to be around a few years before the EPA pulls the plug. Buy one now and store it in a barn
I believe the EPA's rules are more based on MPG than displacement. I'd bet they could make a 5.7 v8 get better mileage than the current 6 just because it wouldn't need to work as hard. Have you seen full-size trucks mileage lately? Most full-size trucks get better MPGs than their midsize counterparts.
I do agree though that a turbo'd v6 is likely the direction they go with.
According to the article, it will replace the 5.7L. Assuming they could make it as good as the 3.5 EcoBoost they'll have a winning combo. It's really amazing how much mileage they can get into the half tons these days. I remember having a mostly stock sierra that got 12mpg on a good day and my former eco diesel was getting 24 regularly. The 3.5 EB gets 17-23 which is pretty awesome for a truck that can tow up to 13k.
Personally I'd welcome it, well, only if done with sound science and pragmatic policy in mind and not politically motivated. If there is one thing COVID has shown us, it's that we need to rethink our economy and our logistics across the US. During the majority of the lockdown, the US emissions only dipped ~13% - far less than what would have been expected. Becoming energy independent (and thus energy and emissions smart) will require a far greater effort than heavily regulated transportation emissions.Green New Deal
They will probably run the 2.0t, 3.0t, and a 4xe/full electric for next gen wrangler motors. If the Diesel is still allowed maybe. The 2.0 and 3.6 are kind of redundant. Full size trucks could be 3.0t some type of hybrid and a 3.0d.
Ford Engineers made that move in the Raptor. The EcoB V6 makes more power and torque than the 6.2L did.
Yep, the EcoBoost is no slouch. In many ways it’s better. I would like to see Jeep offer a similar option.
To be fair the 7.3L doesn’t come close to 20 mpgTo be fair, Ford has been saying this for a long time...
And then last year released a new 7.3L V8
Haha, nope - not even close - which is why it was quite to the shock to see Ford releasing it (it's about as opposite on the end of their engine philosophy spectrum as they could get!).
It’s a school bus engine in it’s 300 something HP form and that’s why they have it. Fleet dream in non diesel.
If you were in charge for a day, what would you make the MSRP and how did you get to that price?
